The easiest way to share and fast update Gramp data

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I am looking for the easiest way to publish my genealogy on popular online services such as FamilySearch, MyHeritage, WikiTree, or any other platform. My goal is to make my tree and documents accessible on the internet. However, there are some constraints that I need to address or bypass:

  1. I am interested in free solutions, so services like MyHeritage are not very suitable, as I already have 12,000 people in my database and 10 GB of documents.
  2. I plan to periodically update this data via GEDCOM file exports. However, I do not want to match duplicates during the export. I read that WikiTree allows uploading in batches of only 5,000 people, and then I will probably have to check each person for matches before exporting. This takes too much time, especially since I plan to do it again every six months. Therefore, I think WikiTree is not suitable either. Perhaps @Davesellers could explain more about how this works there? The ideal option is to be able to delete the old tree and upload a new one without duplicate checks.
  3. I need to somehow upload my documents to the tree of the chosen service. But I do not know of any service where this can be done automatically.

Maybe it’s easier to split this task into two separate ones?

  1. Export the tree without documents to one service – just for indexing so that other users can find it.
  2. Use another service (possibly my own NavWeb export site) to upload all my documents. It seems that InfinityFree.com is suitable for this task. However, there are a few limitations that need to be resolved:
  • Maximum site size (one account) is 5 GB. Three accounts are allowed. This way, I can have three sites of 5 GB each. I will have to export my tree into two or three separate branches. This is not very convenient, but I have no better solution for now. Does anyone know of a better hosting option for this?
  • Maximum file size is 10 MB. I will have to somehow filter these files so that they do not get into the export. I don’t know how I will do this yet. Gramps doesnt have filters by media size. How would you do it?
  • Maximum HTML file size is 1 MB. But the NavWeb export creates very large HTML files, which in my case are up to 10 MB. This will also have to be resolved somehow. Are there any solutions for NavWeb at the moment? Probably, @SNoiraud have some solutions?

I would appreciate any advice or ideas in this direction.

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Sounds more like you want a a web hosting site for your own site rather
than import export from main stream supply
I do something similar every year with Ancestry and My Heritage with
approximately 2500 people completely stripped out GEDCOM’s so Surname,
First Name DOB, DOD, Place of Birth only.
This process involves me exporting the GEDCOM from the host cleaning all
the rubbish accumulated over the year from hints etc. Deleting the Host
Tree and importing the clean Tree via GEDCOM
Question do you own the copyright to all the documents you wish to publish.
phil

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These documents are from regional archives or downloaded from FamilySearch. I wrote a letter to FamilySearch, and they responded that they do not restrict me from publishing but advised me to clarify with the archives from which these documents originated on FamilySearch. I did that, and all the regional archives confirmed that they also have no objections, but under one condition: I must provide a detailed description next to each document indicating its source, including the archive name, fund, description, case, document title, and page. I can achieve this result using a SuperTool script that will create the appropriate annotations for all my media and will create new attributes. Over the past two weeks, I have been standardizing the names of archives, sources, citations, documents, and pages to an internal standard, which will allow me to automate the creation of citations for the archives (similar to FamilySearch citations) for each my document.

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I also have a paid version of the RootsMagick 10. But as I already said, I wouldnt like merge data when export from Gramps to RM to upload then it to Familysearch. As I know, its impossible remove all my tree in Familysearch - only by 1 person.

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Its almost true, but only my own site will not be popular so, this is a small chanse that people will find me. At the same time such effective services as Myheritage look for matches in the most popular services. So, I would like have my tree in one of them at least with no media.

So, I think the solution that would satisfy me 100% is the following: I will have my own indexed site, for example, NavWeb, with my media on a free hosting service, which I will update every six months via FTP. Additionally, I will have my tree (without media) on one of the popular services, where I can delete the old tree and import an updated GEDCOM every six months. I am still looking for a way to do this. It may be that I am asking for too much, but what I have described is what I see as the ideal goal.

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You can upload your tree via gedcom to the paid sites such as Ancestry and Find My Past, however I think you can only upload media to one person at a time on Ancestry. Haven’t tried FMP.
WikiTree is not for you. Yes there is a gedcom upload but it does not load your tree automatically, you have to edit and format each person that you upload so doing more than a 100 at a time is not recommended. Once there you can’t remove them. It is one big tree, there are no individual trees.
As others have said, you likely need to take the Narrative Web and host it yourself.

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You have full control on Ancestry, Find My Past, and Geneanet, and also on FamilySearch genealogies, which is a separate section that you can not access with RootsMagic. I have accounts on all and also on some local sites, and some have features that allow you to overwrite your existing tree with a new upload. Geneanet does that, and Genealogie Online does it too. Ancestry uploads always create a new tree, and it’s the same on FamilySearch genealogies, I think.

Geneanet has a special program to upload pictures, but no download option, although Gramps can do that download for you, if you can deal with some mess.

Ancestry is nice with RootsMagic, because you can upload pictures with that, and it can even download pictures that are not mentioned in a GEDCOM export direct from Ancestry. I find that very useful for scans that Ancestry automatically attaches to many sources, including the 1950 US Federal Cencus, which is free at the moment. Synchronizing changes is only possible between Ancestry and RootsMagic, so it’s not much use, because each GEDCOM import on either creates a new tree, without any history.

FamilySearch Family Tree, Geni, and WikiTree are all shared trees that only allow updates for one person at a time. I made contributions to Geni and WikiTree via GEDCOM, but those only work well for new persons, not for updates.

FamilySearch has a possibility to compare your upload(s) in the genealogies section with the shared tree, but I really don’t like that, because it often doesn’t see that a person in your personal tree already exists in the shared one, and allows you to add that person, creating a duplicate without knowing. You may find those afterwards, when you visit the shared tree, or let RootsMagic check that for you, and in that case, you will have to clean those dup;icates too, or let others clean them behind your back.

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Both FamilySearch and WikiTree have processes for uploading a GEDCOM.

But they do not publish the data to the main trees in those services. They put them in silo’d areas that others have to specifically search. So I’m not sure if that would be any more visible than running your own public site.

❖ FamilySearch • Upload a GEDCOM to the Pedigree Resource File : creates a Pedigree Resource File (PRF).
❖ WikiTree • Help:GEDCOM : won’t import family trees into WikiTree. Instead, GEDCOMpare enables users to create and improve individual profiles using the information in your GEDCOM

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Got it, agree with you. Thanks.
Yes, I think Narrative Web is what I need. So I must solve several troubles with it:

Looks like I need make some changes directly in the narrative web export :melting_face:.

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