I am attempting to create a family tree by importing my family tree [.dte file] from Doro tree.
Can anyone help?
i am using Version 6.0.8 win 10
Moving family tree data from one application to another is done by using a GEDCOM export.
So hopefully the Doro Tree application has a GEDCOM export function, typically found under the āFileā menu.
The GEDCOM file is a pure text file, that you can read using any text editor.
Hi Jeff.
According to the DoroTree 2.1 Userās Guide, there is a āGEDCOMā menu option in the File menu. The first of 5 listed options is āExportā¦ Build a GEDCOM file from your DoroTree family databaseā (It is likely the exported data will have some non-standard data. Writing fully standards compliant GEDCOM is a rarity.)
And, like practically every other Genealogy software in the world, Gramps imports GEDCOM.
I guess the question is whether you have the DoroTree software or just a .dte file?
hi:
thanks for the response.
Dorotree no longer works, hence I have the .dte file and I think I have an excel file with all the entries, can I import that?
There is a CSV import (which Excel can export)ā¦ and it is expanded when shortcoming are discovered.
However, whether the data is converted through .ged or .csv , there is likely to be some data that will be skipped.
I wonder if this might be an opportunity to explore whether an AI can write an import plugin for Gramps based on a sample file?
Searching online indicates that the .dte format is ZIP compressed. (Which seems to contain a bunch of Borland database files.) Decompressing is a familiar importing step for Gramps. Our .gramps format is optionally compressed XML data. (In in the uncompressed form, it is plain text XML listings.) And the .gpkg (which includes media too) is always compressed.
An Excel file cannot be imported directly, but Gramps are pretty good at importing CSV files.
So in Excel you must first export your data as CSV.
You will need to change column names, so they fit Gramps.
MAKE A BACKUP OF YOUR EXCEL FILE BEFORE ANY CHANGES !
The Gramps Manual has a description of CSV import with description of expected column names as well as some samples.
GEDCOM is likely to preserve more of the relationships between records than a CSV export/import.
From what I see online, DoroTree is flakey with Windows 10 and moreso with Windows11. (I found I was unable enter data into the editing forms while running the Demo user registration on Windows 10. But the menus were still working.)
The suggestion found online is to:
āRun this program in compatibility mode for:ā (choose Windows 7 or Windows XP)
And first thing to do when you have it running is to use DoroTreeās File->GECOM menu option to export
Then import that exported GEDCOM file into a newly created, empty tree in Gramps.
There is a good chance that DoroTree will simply skip exporting some of the more esoteric data. But that some of that might be in your Excel spreadsheet. So I would use that Spreadsheet as a reference when doing a āSanity Checkā on the imported data.
Lets discuss any specific data elements that you discover were systematically skipped,
Hi:
thanks for the detailed response.
I finally manged to export the dorotree file to a ged file
how do I import this into gramps?
The easiest way to import that .ged file is to start with Gramps not running.
Right-click the .ged file and choose to open the file with Gramps.
Thatās all!
Gramps will automate all the preliminary manual steps that are necessary if Gramps was running. And that is not an insignificant number of steps:
- from Family Trees menu, open the Family Tree Manager
- click New to create a blank tree
- select the new tree
- click Rename to create a blank tree
- give the tree a unique name
- click Load to make the tree available in the GUI for editing
- from Family Trees menu, select Import
- browse to find the
.gedand open it
The Yahrzeit report (and some other features) would appear to be straightforward to implement in Gramps.
Perhaps you could identify other Cultural features that DoroTree had provided but are missing form Gramps?
While exploring, found the Hebcal REST APIs. But since they prefer javascript, maybe these would be better suited to @DavidMStraub 's Gramps Web
thanks brian, I will do that.
BTW does gramps have a standard list of categories, because dorotree has english and Hebrew, and if necessary I might be able to edit the hebrew out
Yes.
From the Gramps Glossary:
Gramps divides and organizes the information about each Primary Object into a series of different descriptive schemas called Categories, each with their own View.
Each Category is a smaller, more digestible portion of the total information that comprises a Genealogical Tree. The View categories are: Dashboard, People, Relationships, Families, Charts, Events, Places, Geography, Sources, Citations, Repositories, Media, Notes
The Hebrew Gramps Glossary could use some improvement.
Though Iām not 100% sure what youāre asking, I try an answer anyway.
In Gramps you can have names in multiple languages, e.g. you can have one name written in English.(latin characters) and another name in Hebrew (Aleph-Bet), so you can mix different alphabets.
Gramps has been translated to several languages, but you can only run one translation. However, it is quite easy to switch between different languages.
Could you do a āround tripā conversion ? It would give us a hint of the scale of at-risk data that is being lost during the GEDCOM trip?
For your own use, you should probably import your exported GEDCOM into a new DoroTree. So if something is missing from the imported Tree in Gramps, you can look if it is also missing in the GEDCOM DoroTree. If it is missing there too, then the GEDCOM simply did not communicate that data.
For development purposes, could you provide us some sample data? The DoroTree3 download includes a dtdemo.dte sample tree. If you could load that file, export it as GEDCOM, import that GEDCOM into a new (call it āRoundTripā) tree. The GEDCOM and RoundTrip.dte would give us a lot more info about how much data is at risk.
For example, the dtdemo.dte file is 87kb. And letās say the RoundTrip.dte is only 80kb, that is about a 8% filesize reduction. So Iād expect about an 8% dataloss too.
hi:
is that what you wanted?
(Attachment DTdemo.dte is missing)
I tried to send you the file and it didnāt work.
Yes Discouse restricts the filetypes than can be attached.
It looks like you attempted to send a .dte (thanks for that attempt.)
Letās go around Discourse for the sharing of files:
Please send to my emyoulation eMail account on yahoo.com
If you could include the GEDCOM file too, it would help. (The demo version of DoroTree is limited to 36 people. And their demo file FAR exceeds that. So Iāve not been able to interact withis the data.)