Well, let’s just say the interface comes up. I haven’t yet created a database nor found sample files to test for exploring metadata. Validating what metadata Gramps creates for its output files makes a lot of sense.
There are still a couple installer error dialogs (seems like they are related to dependencies) that make installation kind of funky. The warning dialogs fail. So the content of the dependency warning is unknown. Are you interested in bug reports for eliminating such things?
I am certainly interested in problem reports, though I need to be able to reproduce the situation, else I would not be of much use and we would be just ‘spinning our wheels’
I suppose I will have to try and build a VMBox as a test base.
My response time would depend on just how deep down I am one of those rabbit holes.
I have never had any issues installing any of my app, all produced by clones of the same Inno installer script, though sometimes even Windows complains about Trojans even though I know there are none. Some time ago I had used UPX to reduce the file size of the installers and the actual executable, but I had to quit that because Windows security kept complaining and refusing to install.
That ought to no longer be an issue since I have quit using UPX, IIRC, though there might be some leftovers hiding somewhere
Good to know I won’t have to chase the ISP.
Does this mean it is simply a mater of fixing the URL I am making available?
I spent some time trying to build a virtualbox Win 10 image, but under Mint I had very little success, mainly because of my unfamiliarity in getting my desired wxETI version into the VM.
Under Win 11, things went a bit better because I could get the guest additions to allow me to share a folder, but I could not make the network part work and so my VM looked much like your un-connected PC.
When I tried to run the installer, I got an error message much like the ones you seem to be getting, though, right now I don’t have the full details and the error string available.
Just the same, I strongly suspect, that installing anything on a ‘floating’ Win PC will have issues because M$ will surely be checking with home base and complain if it can’t
I did not want the extra complexity layer of a sandbox in a virtual machine. That can sometimes hide things. So I picked up a cheap used Win10 ThinkPad last summer and do experiments there. It gets blanked and rebuilt from the Restore partition at least every few days. (And sometimes a dozen times a day… when doing beta testing.)
I played with wxETI a bit and was a bit overloaded… yet oddly not confident I had discovered all the content. The information was distilled into too many fractions.
Gramps had a similar issue with the Edit Object dialogs having too many tabs and drill-downs. They came up with the idea of marking tab headers that had content with an icon. So you could confidently ignore tabs with just a label and no icon.
I was expecting fillable-form PDFs would have more metadata: field names (and alternative field names), tab orders, form IDs, etc.
FWIW, installing on Win does seem to make a internet connection necessary.
Although I am getting more and more irritated with Windows, especially 11, my familiarity with Linux is just not quite there yet …
I have not investigated the metadata in PDFs very much but every time I looked at a file, I too, was surprised at how little there was.
And yet, as far as I can tell, and based on my reliance on Exiftool, that is all it finds. as far as I can tell.
For PDF, you will want to stick with the Metadata tab on the right . Only the ‘All’ sub-tab in that view will contain any metadata found in the PDF at present.
Because of that, and because of the Linux mindset of Gramps, I have experimented with a Exiftool interface to its library, based on wxPython. Nothing fancy but a plain old interface to ET for reading and writing.
But even there, coming up with a suitable packaging scheme has me stymied for now. My latest attempts at using the Beeware Briefcase app is somewhere part way along, but nowhere near working
If you really looking for data from PDF files, there probably are better utilities. I would guess that what you are looking for would not really qualify, IMO, as metadata since it, again IMO, come much closer to actual ‘content’.
I’ve been working with extracting form data & re-populating fields. That’s fairly straight-forward.
But now I’m interested in inserting a Gramps crosswalk map to the form’s fields. If that can be inserted as metadata, then the forms won’t have to be completely re-built to be Gramps tools.
On those topics I am way out of my depth, but I would suspect that Exiftool, which wxETI is using as a back-end, is not what you will need.
Nor do have any idea whether it ever will, since I would expect that sort of data would not really qualify as ‘metadata’.
So what is a ‘crosswalk’?
Where & how are you intending to use it?
got me curious and it is too late to start googling for it
besides, google may not find your ‘kind’ of ‘crosswalk’
OK, so I looked up the term and it looks interesting.
Seems in my early days with genealogy I had a similar thought and even a trial document, but after settling on a single app, if left it be as part of my experience.
Still, I can see where it might be useful and maybe even essential for folks who use multiple apps to work with their genealogy research.
I was thinking that if we pushed data into a Pedigree fillable PDF form (instead of merely printing to PDF), then relatives could collaborate by correcting the form data (on whatever device they have) and send it back. Then Gramps could suck the data back into a proxy tree and approve any differences as updates.
Not only does it eliminate training people on other software, but form designers could build more elegant output layouts.
Yes, at one time & early on, I was expecting to get useful data & helpful information from various relatives, which is why i initially set up a web presence for the data I had. Sorry to say, only one relative showed any interest and out of more than a dozen and a half, not one ever visited the site more than once or twice. So it is gone., for that & other reasons.
While I still am looking forward to have a Gramps-based web presence, I no longer am under any sort of illusion that much data will come that way.
As for that crosswalk ‘project’, you will have to depend more on some PDF utilities, I suppose.
