Gramps vs Gramps Web - can I do without Gramps running locally?

Gramps Web
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System and Versions of Gramps Web
Gramps 5.2.3
Gramps Web API 2.5.0
Gramps Web Frontend 24.10.0
Gramps QL 0.3.0
Sifts 1.0.0
locale: en
multi-tree: false
task queue: true
OCR: true
chat: false

System and versions of Gramps (local)
GRAMPS: 5.2.3
Python: 3.12.6
BSDDB: 6.2.9 (6, 2, 32)
sqlite: 3.46.1 (2.6.0)
LANG: en_GB.UTF-8
OS: Linux
Distribution: 6.10.10-arch1-1

I’m not at all sure of the difference between Gramps and Gramps Web. I’ve got Gramps Web up and running (using Docker), and it works fine. On the other hand, I’ve just downloaded Gramps to my (Arch)Linux laptop, and it immediately crashed when I tried adding one person. I tried sending a crash report (using Gramps’ reporting system), but couldn’t - it just hung.

I assumed that Gramps would provide a better and richer user experience, and so I could work in Gramps, and then export to Gramps Web. (I exported my Gramps Web material to a local file, but I couldn’t find any way of importing it into my local Gramps). I see that Gramps Web includes Gramps - so does that mean I don’t need local Gramps at all?

Sorry for this simple confusion … but then, I am easily confused!

Many thanks.

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Can you paste the error message here please?

Seeing you are on arch linux it is most likely issue 13543 which was patched by pull request 1761 and will be in Gramps 5.2.4 when released. One of the duplicate issues raised mentioned that downgrading Python 3.13 to 3.1.2 fixed it for them.

I figured out how to make gramps run - provisory at least.

  1. installed ‘downgrade’
  2. did the following downgrades:
    python (3.12.7-1 → 3.13.1-1)
    python-gobject (3.50.0-1 → 3.50.0-2)
    python-cairo (1.27.0-1 → 1.27.0-2)
    gramps (2:5.2.3-1 → 2:5.2.3-2)
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There is an addon for Gramps called “Gramps Web Sync” that will merge/sync the data between your Gramps local install and Gramps Web. I would recommend making backups of your local and web data before running bi-directional sync.

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Hi,

this post should probably in the Gramps Web category.

You can use either Gramps (desktop) or Gramps Web standalone, or use them in conjunction with the sync addon as mentioned by @rolanyang.

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Thank you for both pieces of advice! Since GrampsWeb is working, and Gramps isn’t (and I don’t want to downgrade other software), I’ll just keep working there, and posting any questions I have to the GrampsWeb forum.

cheers,
A.

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