Here is a PDF of that I caught before restarting my computer it is all greek to me!
GRAMPS error code 7:15AM.pdf (368 KB)
You are the person that uses the Mac Book right?
I will create a Census event for a person and then add the Citation using the source, add the census image to the citationâs galley and from that add the page information of the citation.
I then copy the census image and the source information from that citation to the clipboard (drag-n-drop). I do the same for the place from the event.
Then I create a census event for anyone else in the record. The clipboard holds the place, and source for the event and the image for the citation. (Do not create another record of the image!). You share the same image to all the citations for the census.
I do this when each personâs citation is based upon their individual line numbers.
The alternative is to create the event with citation for the head of the family. The citation holds the family/household information.
Then drag-n-drop the entire event to the clipboard. You then share the event with any other members of the family. In this case make sure to set the Role for each person.
Personally, I share the census event with everyone listed in the household (including non-family members such as âboardersâ), using a single citation in which the page info includes details such as âSheet 10, lines 83-88â.
I appreciate there are many different ways to do things, and am probably not likely to change at this point, but am always interested in pros and cons, in case I have been missing out on something more advantageous.
I am now using the 5.2 beta which has the best of both worlds.
5.2 adds a Source/Citation tab next to the eventâs Role tab. So now the shared census event gets the citation for the family/household. I am now able to add the individualâs line number citation to the person.
I still do everything manually and share the events with all relevant family/household members using the clipboard and to hold the components to fill out each S/C.
I am also now converting previously entered individual census records to shared events utilizing the new S/C tag for the individual.
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Do you have an automated way of doing this?
Are these in the instructions? I have read so many different versions of the destructions (instructions) and have tried each of the categories based on the instructions, and watched TimG videos several times and followed step by step and there may be something I am missing or these addons are used by different individuals. I have not looked at the codes just yet but what I have seen it looks different. Is this all python coding? <> does not look to familiar to me! Thank you for all of your help and understanding. JNELSON
Verrry interesting. Since I have only 1 family in my database, do you think it would be beneficial to dump what info I have and start over with the new 5.2 and help use the beta test, being I am very new to all of this?
JNELSON
The 5.2 release I have is no longer available so I would not recommend a change until another beta2 or beta3 is released.
No!!!
I do one census family at a time by pulling apart the components of the head of familyâs record and giving that record the household citation. I then copy the event to the clipboard. I then move the HoHâs individual citation and attributes to the eventâs reference area.
Since I only used individual citations, I was never concerned with families that spanned two pages of records. I now have to be careful to include both pages when this occurs.
Then it is a matter of copying the shared census event to other members of the household, then moving the citation and attributes from the individual census event to the clipboard, deleting the individual event from the person, then adding the individual citation and attributes to the shared event.
It is a little tedious making sure that each person gets their own citation and attributes back in the new shared event. I do this by having on the clipboard items needed for one person at a time. The event to be shared and that personâs unique citation and attributes. Once that person in done itâs on to the next person. While doing this I will have the census record open in a viewer
When I am done for the session, I will filter to find these no longer needed census events so I can delete them. I have a filter for Reference = 0. I also run a filter looking for any unattached citations. There should not be any. But I do this to make sure that all citations from the single events made it into the referenced shared event.
What do we do if we find some of the data is distributed inappropriately?
Looking at this data, tale the Census Attributes are filed under the Event. Shouldnât the âLine No.â be in the âReference informationâ with the rest of the Row data, not the âShared informationâ with the page header data? How would we fix all the places this Form was used?
(Actually, Iâm kinda uncomfortable with this data being shared in the Event? Doesnât that limit the scope of the Event sharing too much? Isnât it more appropriate as attributes of a source citation applied to the Event?)
Hi
The way this is setup looks how I do it except the Reference Field in my case would have something like this for say the 1891 Census of England
PRO Ref RG12 Piece 2878 Folio 139 Page 42
This would end up automatically as the citation, there is an argument for extending this to No of Schedule (ie household) but even if there was a line number which there is not I would choose not to do that because who do you choose the line of the head of household or create a citation for each individual which creates to many citations for my liking.
Phil
Except that that the Shared Citation would allow it to be a single Citation for the whole page. The Row-level data is in the Primary-object specific Attributes.
So even if there were a dozen households on that page, you could share them with a single Citation.
With 5.2, we might be able to create a CItation add-on plug-in that leverages those Attributes. Thatâs a guess since we donât know how the new plug-in type works yet.
Fixing/Editing Forms: If you change a field of a Form, you need to copy/rename/edit the Form. Otherwise the data is there but it is not viewable in the form window.
Case in point - I used an early version of the US 1950 census and entered a bunch of people. The fields in the form changed in the released version. I now have 2 forms : US1950 (standard release) and US1950v0 (custom version) that have different names of fields.
Yes, I could have written a script to edit the XML backup to rename the fields. But I decided it was easier and less error-prone to have a 2nd form for the older version of the fields.
This is a down-side of the Forms.
What I do as far as reference is concerned I strictly use Familysearch for now so I use the following; image# of # sheet # family # line(s) x-x at least this will include somewhere to look.JNELSON
I do have another question. Have you experienced the program crashed after completing the form? I have experienced this and when I tried to look at reports, the pick list is blank firstly and secondly I can not move the darn thing from the upper left corner. Thank you JNELSON
I am still reading the 427 page manual, so at some point I will review each section and go through one category at a time for each of my family member. One point that I do, is for each member on the person editor in the note tab I enter the LDS-ID number so I have at my finger tips. I donât know how this will show up later. I have never used any type program except one I found at a garbage (garage) sale and read that manual and I got lost with all of the boxes. I found GRAMPS just by accident and use it because it is a free program. It surely is a challenge at best and I am trying to do organizing a database. JNELSON
Alternatively, you could store that in an attribute. âHow this will show up laterâ is the key to making such decisions. As you get familiar with the various views and reports, youâll find that some pieces of information are easier to see when they are stored in one place vs. another. (For this particular example, I would probably use an attribute rather than a note, but thatâs just my preference.)
Jnelson,
We are the same age and I know my brain is not as sharp as it use to be. The mistake I made when I first started using GRAMPS was to put things in where I thought was a good place for them. Only later I discovered that GRAMPS is very well designed and things work great if you use it as designed.
I also came to the conclusion that Iâm only going to enter stuff that I may have a use for.
For example: the only use I have for a census record is to track where the person was on the census date, therefore I only copy and paste a few items into the Page/Vol field and the URL if I have to go back to it.
If other family members are on the same census, I open the person record for those people and drag the Census event over and save it there also.
I found the forms too complicated and I have no use for all the info that would be recorded.
My suggestion is to focus on the very basic functions at this time and as you get better with the program you can delve into the more complex features.
When I said track where they were, meaning use the map function. This means when you create a new place you must include the Lat/Log in the record. Each module relies on info from another.
Good luck.