Can someone explain why it is so difficult to allow gramplets to use the native Python installation on Windows instead of the AIO version? It’s often easier to install Pyton on Windows than it is to install and get Gramps to work on Windows, we already need to install graphviz and some other softwa…

[image] Nick-Hall: You will obviously need to install python modules into the copy of python that is being used to run Gramps. And that is the “problem”, if a developer dont want to add a packages or update it, because he/she/hen don’t use that plugin, those who want to use it but are not pyt…

I had made exactly the same type of remark on the Geneanet thread on this subject. The issue that I encounter does not come so much from the OS as from the limitations imposed by the developers of Gramps because of the packaging of Gramps for Windows. This packaging is super well done, the proof …

[image] Obstipatus: Can someone explain why it is so difficult to allow gramplets to use the native Python installation on Windows instead of the AIO version? I’m genuinely curious about that too. (Of course, I’m curious about almost everything.) Is there some project documentation that talks…

[image] PLegoux: This solution would make it possible to pip add any library necessary for the addon and benefit from all the richness of the Python ecosystem (perhaps GTK too but I don’t know). Installing Gtk is actually the problem. It needs to be compiled with python and other packages in…

[image] Nick-Hall: If the package is not available in MSYS2 then we would have to compile it ourselves in an MSYS2 environment. Is this the reason the Face Detection functionality is not available for the Photo Tagging Gramplet add-on in Windoze? See Bug 10913 Face detection does NOT work in…

[image] Nick-Hall: Gtk3 I think the AiO for the main package is great, but it should be possible to either install/copy needed packages for gramplets/addons and to use them, either natively in Windows or in the gramplet sub folders that needs them… And seriously, for today’s Windows the size…

[image] Obstipatus: Just asking, is it not possible to make the updates or installation of gramplets dependencies in a way so that they do not need to depend on what’s in the AIO package? I like the concept. But wonder if the install of dependencies from within Gramps would look like malware? …

Don’t think so, python packages do not trigger a mailware alert as long as it uses pip or some other “installer” and are “signed” or just copies the compiled files to a folder outside the system folders. I have never had problems with python or Anaconda the same way that I have had problems with e.…

[image] emyoulation: I like the concept. But wonder if the install of dependencies from within Gramps would look like malware? At least least with the All in one installer we no longer need to do it our selves! These are the original instructions for installation on Windows of Gramps 3.4.x …

I contribute a bit to the MacPorts project so maybe I can add a little context even if it is not Windows specific. Allowing a program to download its own pre-requisites opens a number of issues. As noted above, operating systems are trying to protect users from malware by controlling the process o…

[image] Obstipatus: And seriously, for today’s Windows the size of the Gramps doesn’t matter, it doesn’t matter if it is 60MB, 160MB or 500MB, most of today’s larger software packages is somewhere between 200MB and 2,7GB (the latest download of the On1 PhotoRaw software). If a miniatyr installe…

Why are Prerequisites for some add-ons so complex to install on Windows?

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Why are Prerequisites for some add-ons so complex to install on Windows?

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