I think I did this some years ago, but the secret is eluding me. I recently completed adding links that show my nephew’s wife is my 10th cousin. I want to print a chart that shows the steps in the connection.
The utility to show relationships between any two people merely states that she is my 10th cousin. It also states that she is my nephew’s wife. No details are offered.
Deep Connection is useless because it insists on bringing up connections that go from me to my brother to his son. I used the “Find More” button several dozen times and got nothing useful. Going back through her ancestors does the same thing - Deep Connections goes UP the tree instead of DOWN.
I tried a Kinship Graph. Over an hour later it is still processing. The only way I know to stop it is to axe all of Gramps which will, of course, leave the database in an “in use” state. I probably should have used a filter … But what filter???
None of the other reports I see look like they would be useful.
Family Search will show a reasonable graph which I can print to PDF. For this many generations it is microscopic and unreadable. Zooming in on it does not help much. What I want is a readable form of their “Show Relationship” graph.
What am I missing? Is there a report already built that does this?
You’ll want to use the Consanguinity experimental gramplet. (If someone is good with refining graphs, some help creating the lines between blocks in the diagram to replace the unicode-based ones would be nice tweak.)
I installed the Consanguinuity gramplet and added it to the
Relationships view. It does not show that my nephew and his wife have a
common ancestor. Here is what I get from Relationship Calculator and
from Consanguinuity:
=== From Relationship Calculator
Gee, Austin Michael is the husband of Bensinger, Beryl A…
Gee, Austin Michael is the tenth stepcousin twice removed (down) of
Bensinger, Beryl A… Their common ancestors are Burges, Edward and
Mills, Mary.
=== From Consanguinuity gramplet
Bensinger, Beryl A. (*1981-09-05)
Pedigree collapse for active person
No pedigree collapse found.
Relationships between active person and partners
Partner: Gee, Austin Michael (*1985-05-10)
No common ancestors found.
I already have the Related Relatives report. In my database of over
17,000 people there are hundreds of related relatives. Austin and Beryl
show up on this list, but with no more information than what
Relationship Calculator shows.
Just for a test, I picked another person who married their first cousin.
For that relationship Consanguinuity shows they are related.
Is there something more to the Consanguinuity gramplet?
You can bookmark the two people, then create a custom filter to select all of the people along the relationship path between them, and then use that custom filter in the Relationship Graph report (choosing anyone along the path to the be Center Person).
Yes. This is what I have done to produce a chart showing a consanguineous relationship.
That is, create a person filter to select the relationship path between each person and their common ancestor (2 rules).
Then a second filter to select everyone from the first filter and all spouses of persons in the first filter.
Then run a relationship graph on the second filter.
I have two step-grandfathers, and the relationship to my nephew’s wife
goes through one of them. That man may actually be my biological
grandfather. DNA analysis will be required to prove it one way or the
other. For now I have him listed in Gramps as a step-parent of my father.
My nephew is adopted. Does that change how the Consanguinity gramplet
works?
Some other responses give a few hints about how to create some filters
and use an existing report. I am going to give that a try. I find
filters a bit bewildering, in part because there are so many hundreds of
them. The result is I never use them. The learning curve is just too
steep.
Update … There are several relationships between me and my nephew’s
wife! I have only one of them in Gramps, and it goes through my mother
and her mother. No step-parents in the chain.
Using some clues from Peter Hewitt, I created a person filter using
“Relationship path between” and naming the two persons of interest.
Applying that to the Relationship Graph produces the report I want. It
is a bit awkward-looking since it slopes from upper right to lower left
instead of being vertical, but it shows all of the links in the chain.
What I’m looking for is a way to construct a simple graphical descendant tree with just two lines of descent from a common ancestor to the target people. For example, I’d like to be able to depict how a third cousin and I are related.
There are a few options. But none are ideal for the stated purpose.
The Deep Connections addon gramplet will show the relations between the Home Person (you) and the Active Person (your cousin).
However, it stops 1 step short of the common ancestor.
And it is a power-hog that slows down everything else. Do not leave it active.
The experimental Consanguinity is probably gives the closest output to what you request. But you’d have to create a temporary Family with you and your cousin to use its features. But it diagrams Pedigree collapse for each ‘Spouse’ and common ancestry graphs from any respective “Relationship” links
There are 3 ‘Relationship’ filter rules that could be used to show the path in different views:
Relationship path between <persons>
Relationship path between <person> and people matching <filter>
Relationship path between bookmarked persons
Relationships between active person and partners
Queen Elizabeth II (*21 Apr 1926, +8 Sep 2022)
Partner: Duke of Edinburgh, Philip (*10 Jun 1921, +9 Apr 2021)
Relationship: **third cousins**
Common ancestors:
of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha, Albert (*26 Aug 1819, +14 Dec 1861)
Queen Victoria (*24 May 1819, +22 Jan 1901)
Which propagate into pedigree collapse in the next generation:
Pedigree collapse for active person
King Charles III (*14 Nov 1948)
Pedigree collapse at parents:
Duke of Edinburgh, Philip (*10 Jun 1921, +9 Apr 2021)
Queen Elizabeth II (*21 Apr 1926, +8 Sep 2022)
Relationship: third cousins
Common ancestors:
of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha, Albert (*26 Aug 1819, +14 Dec 1861)
Queen Victoria (*24 May 1819, +22 Jan 1901)
There still isn’t an attractive cousin diagram in Gramps.
So I ask Perplexity to generate a .dot GraphViz file to illustrate a relationship between a pair of second cousins, once removed who are descended of a male ancestor but from different wives.
It took a LOT of iterations (and a sample diagram) before we arrived at:
(displayed via the KGraphViewer 2.4.3, a Graphviz DOT graph viewer)
digraph family_tree {
rankdir=TB;
splines=ortho;
nodesep=0.75;
ranksep=0.75;
node [fontname=Arial, fontsize=10, width=1.5, height=0.75, fixedsize=true];
edge [dir=none, penwidth=1];
// Generation 0
R [label="Smith, Robert\nb. 1820\nd. 1890", shape=box, style=filled, fillcolor=lightblue];
A [label="Carpenter, Anne\nb. 1825\nd. 1895", shape=ellipse, style=filled, fillcolor="#FFDDDD"];
RA [shape=point, width=0, height=0];
{rank=same; R -> RA [len=0.5]; RA -> A [len=0.5];}
// Generation 1
M [label="Smith, Mark\nb. 1850\nd. 1920", shape=box, style=filled, fillcolor=lightblue];
Mary [label="Jones, Mary\nb. 1855\nd. 1925", shape=ellipse, style=filled, fillcolor="#FFDDDD"];
Susan [label="Gold, Susan\nb. 1860\nd. 1930", shape=ellipse, style=filled, fillcolor="#FFDDDD"];
MM [shape=point, width=0, height=0];
MS [shape=point, width=0, height=0];
{rank=same; Mary -> MM [len=0.5]; MM -> M [len=0.5]; M -> MS [len=0.5]; MS -> Susan [len=0.5];}
// Generation 2
J [label="Smith, James\nb. 1880\nd. 1950", shape=box, style=filled, fillcolor=lightblue];
E [label="Smith, Elizabeth\nb. 1885\nd. 1955", shape=ellipse, style=filled, fillcolor="#FFDDDD"];
{rank=same; J; E;}
// Generation 3
W [label="Smith, William\nb. 1910\nd. 1980", shape=box, style=filled, fillcolor=lightblue];
S [label="Brown, Sarah\nb. 1915\nd. 1985", shape=ellipse, style=filled, fillcolor="#FFDDDD"];
{rank=same; W; S;}
// Generation 4
T [label="Smith, Thomas\nb. 1940\nd. 2010", shape=box, style=filled, fillcolor=lightblue];
Mi [label="Brown, Michael\nb. 1940\nd. 2010", shape=box, style=filled, fillcolor=lightblue];
{rank=same; T; Mi;}
// Generation 5
Jo [label="Brown, John\nb. 1970\nd. -", shape=box, style=filled, fillcolor=lightblue];
// Connections
RA -> M;
MM -> J;
MS -> E;
J -> W;
E -> S;
W -> T;
S -> Mi;
Mi -> Jo;
// Relationship indicators
edge [color=red, style=dashed];
T -> Mi [constraint=false];
edge [color=blue, style=dashed];
T -> Jo [constraint=false];
}
Perplexity claimed to generate a prompt that integrated all the revisions and would generate the same diagram. But it did not. The new prompt created light blue rectangles for the families as well as the males. It totally ignored the females and added an extra marriage.
