I’m testing genealogytree LaTex output, and noticed that in treedoc.py eventtype baptism is written to the .tex file while christening isn’t.
A few questions about this:
1.What is the difference between baptism and christening?
2. Why is only baptism written to the .tex file?
3. Is there a way to change all my christening events into baptism events?
In Tools >> Family Tree Processing there is the Rename Event Types. Make sure you have a backup before running any batch edit tools.
Religious customs. Even in the religions I am familiar with that call the religious rite a christening, they still baptize the person.
Christening is also a religious naming. To “christen” means to “give a name to”.
An FYI: You will often not be able to find information on the Birth but will find a church’s Baptism record. In Gramps, when there is no Birth event record, the Baptism or Christening event record will be used a fallback and stand in as if they are the Birth event. They will appear italicized in people lists. The same with Death and Burial.
Thank you very much for your answer.
The problem is that the LaTex package we use to create graphic trees (genealogytree) doesn’t recognize christening. It only uses baptism (Which is right in my opinion, as they are nearly synonyms.)
To make the program print my christening dates, I added 2 lines to /gen/plug/docgen/treedoc.py after line 496
I just might convert all my christenings into baptisms. Not only for my LaTex problem, but also because the gramps gui has baptism available on the first level, and to choose christening you have to first choose religious.
Oh. I may have been reading wrong. Isn’t this for a Chart where the box has a Birth & Death but parallels the Birth Fallback and Death Fallback? Except that it does the weirdness of making the Christening fallback to a Baptism instead of directly to Birth?
I had not heard of an adult christening, only adult baptisms. But it make sense too for conversions.
Me neither, although they may exist if they’re associated with getting a (new) name, which is the essence of christening, as opposed to baptism.
For me, the problem seems to be associated with FamilySearch, that works with other data providers, like the Dutch open archives site, created by Bob Coret. It looks like when I attach a baptism source with that origin to a person, a christening event is created, which sometimes meand that I end up with persons that have christening and baptism events at the same date, which is very confusing.
So here’s a question for @eugene : Where are these christenings coming from? Do you also import profiles from FamilySearch? Or are they coming from GEDCOM files created by other (Dutch) programs?
When I enter data in Gramps, I always use Doop which is stored as baptism.
OK, nice to know. And when I think about this, Pro-Gen is right, because when we speak about Doop in the context as we know it, in Christianity, it is the where the child gets its name, and the GEDCOM standard only mentions naming in the description of Christening, not in baptism:
The religious event (not LDS) of baptizing and/or naming a child.
I can also see this in Legacy, which is the only Dutch speaking program that can share data with familySearch, which is why I use it next to Gramps, and in that Christening is listed as one of the 4 main events in a person’s life, next to Birth, Death, and Burial, and Baptism is shown between other facts and events, as something that can be done later in life.
And finally, I also checked PAF, which was the de-facto standard for genealogy software, and the first program to implement GEDCOM 5.5.1, and that also sees Christening as a main event, not Baptism.