I know the usual answer to “How do I see all citatons for a person” is to select the person from the person category and then use the Citation Gramplet, but that shows me every reference for each citation.
Which I could almost see as useful, if it told you what reference it was, and then opened that when you chose it, but all of them just open the citation.
Is there anyway to only see each citation attached to a person, maybe a filter in the Citations category?
(Side note, should we here or on reddit start a weekly “Simple Questions” thread?)
I am going to posit that you use citations not only for the actual fact it proves but also for the clues of other information that can be gleaned from the document. Birth from the Census, Occupation from the Census. I am not sure what the other 7 references you documented using the 1870 Census.
To get the Citations gramplet to include the referenced object or to only include one instance of the citation would require a feature request.
Personally, I view this as citation clutter and is one of the reasons I only add the S/C to the event it proves. Birth information found on the Death Certificate does not prove the birth event. It could be a great clue, but not proof.
And no, I am not suggesting that you need to switch your practices or methods. Each Gramps user determines what works best for themselves.
Well, I guess that is another question, because I don’t use it like that for clues. If I need to do analysis of that sort, I use Evidentia. So, this is what that citation references, but there are more in the Citations Gramplet listed than by the citation.
But, basically, is there no way to do a filter in the Citation Category that says return any citation attached to an event attached to a person? Or return any Media attached to a citation attached to a person?
I feel like I am missing an easy way to filter citations by person.
There is the Deep Gallery addon. It is a manual install.
Note: There is a known bug that I submitted a PR for but has not been merged by the author. Make sure to make the change.
I just noticed that you attach the S/C to the media record which I assume is the image of the census page. I assume you also add the media record to the citation. Is this causing a loop?
@ukulelehans Hans.
Could you release your Deep Gallery, Consanguinity and WikiTree addons to the main Gramps-Project addons repository?
You mentioned letting someone else adopt the maintainers responsibility since your available time is limited.
I recall that when you originally wanted to release an addon, the publication queue was stopped up. @GaryGriffin has done a wonderful job resolving that and recreating the downloadable user manuals.
Makes sense, although not showing the reference makes that not as useful/intuitive, but the citation is used twice, and has 2 references, one for the media, one for the citation. So, working as intended, at least:
But not sure what is going on with the census. It lists itself 10 times. 6 Persons, which is the correct number of people that have this census event. 1 event - the census. and then 1 media, the image. Soo… what are the other 2?
This gets even worse on the 1900 census. It lists itself 23 times. 2 events, 1 media, 8 people… 22 ghost citations.
I just tried adding the s/c from a census event and attached it back to the image of the census sheet. No multiples of the S/C occurred in the Citations gramplet.
My last idea was to add the same S/C from the census event and attached it to an attribute within the same event. Additional lines of the same S/C started showing up in the Citations gramplet.
For a census event, I add the person’s age and occupation as stated in the census as attributes in the event record. I have the S/C for the family in the shared portion of the event and the individual’s line number S/C added to the event’s reference section next to the role. The Age and Occupation attributes I consider part of the whole package and do not add the S/C to these components of the event.
With the S/C added to both the event and to the attributes in the event, multiple lines of the same S/C appear in the Citations gramplet. Going to the Citations view, the citation shows as being attached to the person once.
I really hope this identifies the problem because I am running out of ideas.
Ok, so I found a reddit thread about someone experiencing the same thing. I’m not sure if this helps or not. I did use the Forms gramplet for SOME of my censuses, but I can’t remember which ones. I know it wasn’t all of them.
I too share your need for more citation filters. Bug 0012506 gives a text report which improves the stock Sources/Citations Report by using citation filters and sorting. The latest version can also show the record that the citation is attached to. This may help you.
Because there are so many categories which may require filters the number of filters required to cater for all eventualities is very large. The solution to the problem is to have one filter per category which allows using any other category’s filters.
