(v6.0.8 on Win11)
I found GetGOV in the master list on GitHub (addons/gramps60), and also checked the display name in the German JSON list, but it doesn’t appear in the addon manager for installation?
The GetGov gramplet is an “Expert” audience addon.
Did you change the Addon Manager’s audience Filter from theEveryone default to Expert (or to the unfiltered All audiences) so that it can be found?
(Note this is showing an experimental version of the Addon Manager on Gramps 5.2 that gives color-coded feedback when Filters could be hiding some results.)
Thank you and excuse for these newbee questions:
It was installed all time before, but it looks like, I didn’t find it in the “Places” window (and still don’t see it there).
Got it: Right click in the survey window.
No worries. We appreciate your keeping to a single feature per thread. That make answering easier to do quickly and thoroughly.
A default small assortment of Gramplets are docked in each view mode’s gramplet docks: the right sidebar and the bottombar. Each dock allows viewing one Gramplet at a time from the assortment. (The assortment is different for every View category and for every View mode within a category.) And you can add or remove Gramplets from the docks. The full library of installed Gramplets available for a view is listed in a menu.
(My 5.2 gramps has 94 built-in gramplet plug-ins, another 92 addon gramplet plugins and 561 installed plugins of the 16 types in total. Some are People-view oriented, others Place-oriented. Such an abundance makes it obvious that having all the gramplets visible all the time would not be reasonable.)
In this screen capture of the Places view, I have already installed and added the Place Cleanup addon gramplet to the bottombar. (I find the GeoNames-based Place Cleanup more useful than the GetGov.) And am using the Gramplet menu bar button at the top right of the sidebar to choose the GetGov gramplet for addition to the sidebar
Thank you! Found the button to add Gramplets to the display!
I checked your suggestions as well.
Concerning “Place Cleanup”:
- “GeoNames” is a good tool.
- However, for the “old” German villages which I will have to consider, everything which I found was not correct.
Concerning “GetGOV”:
- My opinion: This Gramplet needs a revision.
- I think it’s (in general) not a good idea to use DB-IDs from one DB (here: GOV) in another DB (here: Gramps).
Which anyway results in their deletion, when Gramps-IDs are updated/renewed. - However, the GOV-ID is an important attribute, when GOV is used.
- This would typically be an attribute in a data structure.
- However “Place” has no “attrubute_list” (which perhaps could be added later on).
Therefore, I would suggest:
- I’ll copy the GOV-ID as a note to the “note_list”
(and delete it from “Place.gramps_id”). - I’ll add the URL which opens the GOV-WebSite for this GOV-ID to Place.urls.
- I can first do this manually and later try to change the Python code for GetGOV.
Concerning GOV - in general:
- GOV is an important (and decades old) project of CompGen e.V.
- It offers to show (grafically) the change of administrative structures and hierarchy over centuries (for state-run and church-run administration, courts, …)
- However, it contains many errors, inconsistencies, … - often due to unclear defintions.
- Since I’m member of CompGen e.V., I want to use GOV and try to contribute to its improvement by using it.
Best regards,
Klaus Schröer
I created PR927 to add the GOV-WebSite url to the Place urls. Feedback welcome.
Sorry, for not answering before.
- Currently, I have strange access conditions. (Spending much time with waiting for Cloudflare.)
- I never did this before: Working with GitHub.
- I’m still not familiar with the Gramps program.
- I found an update for GetGOV in the Addon-Manager.
(I might remember something like “1.0.25”, but found no way to check whether this is related to your changes.) - I used it with “EBEADTJN49HT” and saw an error message.
There were no changes in the “places” data. - Since - from my understanding - such error messages can also be the result of GOV-inconsistencies, the error message says nothing about the program.
As you might understand from these lines, I do not (yet) feel ready for supporting the program’s development.
Best regards,
Klaus Schröer
The easiest way to determine if the update is in the released version is to check if the PR is merged. If so, then the latest build will be accessible from the Addon Manager. You can see the status of this PR as merged, so it is in the latest version ( gramps 6.0 and the beta for 6.1 )
I created a new tree and used the same string. It did not generate any issues. The view is:
The Addon is designed to not add the place if it already exists. So all existing places that omit the GOV link will not get overwritten. New places will get their GOV link.