Hi all There has been a discussion about different uses of CHR and BAPM in gramps rf. Moving events from christening to baptism . I don’t want to open that discussion again, but ask if it is intended to change the recording standard when recording “Taufe” to be changed to “Taufe” = Christening inst…

I have started to post several times only to delete my drafts. I spent a little time on Google translate running the three terms; Baptism, Christening and Taufe, through the translator. And while in English there is a nuanced difference between Baptism and Christening, in German, they mean exactly …

Hi Dave Thanks for your answer. I constantly use Taufe which is under life events and translates to BAPM in gedcom export. The subject came up when using tng as well which uses CHR tag and talking to German tng users who constantly use CHR. Mostly they adress the event when babies are given their …

In French Baptism an Christening both are translated into Baptême. I’ve asked Google Translate what Taufe means but it’ve returned no answer. These threads are totally lunar for me :grinning:

I was also puzzled by the subtle nuances between Christening and Baptism. So, I searched the internet, looking primarily to Church of England argumentation. Globally, from a religious point of view, they have the same outcome: an incumbent is received among a church. It appears that preference for …

To cloud the waters further (hah!), keep in mind that some denominations are big on adult baptism: [image] [image] Learn the Meaning and Importance of Baptism in the Christian Life What does baptism mean to Christians? Read a biblical explanation of the meaning, importance, and purpose…

[image] uli22: The disadvantage would be that I would have to choose event-Religion-Christening which is rather inconveniant on data entry. If that is the problem, then maybe the focus of this discussion should be on the UI design? [image] uli22: We are working on transcribing a parish b…

[image] GeorgeWilmes: the UI design For example, currently the first event I enter for a person defaults to Birth, the second defaults to Death. What if I could create different workflows having different lists of ordered default events? Then one of them could be Birth, Baptism, etc.

I don’t understand the importantance of this discussion. If the record I’m citing says Baptism that is how I record it, if it says Christening that is how it is recorded. How does it make any difference in the tree that I’m building?

@Davesellers You’re right: if the record says Baptism, this is baptism; if it says Christening, it is christening. The problem stems for ourselves who aren’t English-speaking natives. These built-in types must be translated into our own language. But then there is no strict equivalence to the Engl…

Yes, translations can be problematic. If Baptism and Christening basically translate to the same thing in your language, I would pick the equivalent of Baptism just because it is at the top of the drop down list and slightly easier to select. I would ignore the Christening type. I admit I don’t know…

BAPTISM vs. CHRISTENING

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trlvn September 27, 2023, 12:24pm 6

To cloud the waters further (hah!), keep in mind that some denominations are big on adult baptism:

It would feel wrong to record such an event in Gramps as a “Christening”.

Craig
(That picture has a weirdly homo-erotic vibe, doesn’t it?)

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