New Gramps example database with British royal family

Hi devs,

as you know, the current Gramps example tree is meant for development and isn’t suited as a realistic genealogical database example to showcase Gramps’s features. We currently use it as a sample database for Gramps Web, but it’s awkward:

  • In the Gramps Web demo, the tree size for the default person is quite small and it contains very few, and partially embarrassing, imagery
  • For developers, the database is not well suited to test things like the AI assistent, as there is not enough meaningful data.

To address this, I’ve been collaborating with @mathewjittymol on creating a new example database. This wouldn’t have been possible without GitHub - D-Jeffrey/gedcom-samples: A collection of GED files for use in GEDCOM projects for testing in the form of a sub module · GitHub, an open data repository of GEDCOM samples.

We took the QUEEN.ged file, cleaned it up and uploaded it to Grampshub. @mathewjittymol is now in the process of enriching this with Creative-Comments-licensed material, such as photos and text snippets from Wikipedia.

Here a sneak preview:

While this is currently on Grampshub to allow us to work on it collaboratively, this whole database including media files will eventually be shared under Creative Commons in a Github repo of course!

Right now, we’d be happy to welcome anybody who would like to contribute to help improve this tree. A lot is still missing, e.g. place hierarchy, more consistently formatted names, etc.

Just let me know and we’ll create an editor account for you in this tree and you can start contributing.

Hmm, very intriguing, thanks for embarking on this project to produce more test data.

Looking at the D. Jeffrey GutHib repository, I have a couple of questions:

(1) How does Gramps cope with the BCE dates?

(2) have you managed to find the origin of this data? I see that Jeffrey references “M M Wardle and RootsMagic 8”. The data seems to come from https://kingscoronation.com/queen-elizabeth-ii-gedcom-download/ but as this website is for sale, it might be sensible to put it inot the internet archive (if you know how to do that?). I can’t see where M M Wardle comes into it.

Does it show her descendency from Muhammad?

Tim.

I could work on the part of the tree related to Russia. Also I think that an example database should include people from all estates. For example, in XIX century in Russia names of people had slightly different “format” for peasants and nobles.

Yes that would be useful! I can create an account for you, please let me know your desired username and email address via PN - both must be unique on Grampshub.

As Nicholas Whyte explains, that alleged descent is wrong because Zaida of Seville is not descended from the Prophet Muhammad. And besides, Zaida’s only child with Alfonso, Sancho, was killed in battle at 15 years old.

It seems like examples with lines of descent for Religious figures is inviting conflict. Political figures can draw fire too but are less likely to start flame wars.

I wasn’t even aware this is part of this tree. Perhaps we should cap the ancestors to something like the last 500 years.

To be clear. The example tree we’re working on is NOT meant to be genealogically accurate. It might be partially accurate, but its purpose is to demonstrate Gramps and Gramps Web features, no more, no less!

I never intended to cause any conflict. I just wanted to point out that the claim that the royal family is descended from the Prophet is incorrect.

However, fabricating family trees for religious figures is not uncommon. People have been doing it for years, and even now, I still see family trees on Ancestry going back to Adam and Eve. Then they start to fall into conspiracy theory territory, as with the idea of the Jesus bloodline.

I thought you we going to mention The Book of Genesis there. :winking_face_with_tongue:

I wonder how Gramps would handle Adam’s “parent” and Eve’s birth from Adam’s rib. /s

Jokes aside :wink:

Update:

Thanks to @mathewjittymol for all the work on this so far.

Thank you for your words and for the shout-out—I really appreciate it!

It has been a pleasure working on the example tree, and I’m glad to see it now available in its own GitHub repository. Moving the Gramps Web Demo to use this tree is a great milestone, and I’m excited to see it continue to evolve.

Also thanks to GitHub - D-Jeffrey/gedcom-samples: A collection of GED files for use in GEDCOM projects for testing in the form of a sub module · GitHub with GEDCOM data only I able to enrich the database.