Citations to magazine articles

Hello all,

I would like to know how you register the following:
I own about 20 years of a genealogical magazine, and would like to cite a certain article, including the author. For each citation I would like to include the page / year etc where I found it…

As a repository I fill in "My library¨
it would be great if I could now add as a sub-repository “My collection of this genealogy magazine”
Under this I would like to create a citation for the article I found the information, including Title, author pages etc.

I don´t think this is possible, because I can’t create a sub-repo…

The same problem I have when visiting a fysical archive. (repository)
This archives has a big collection of other archives (archive of family …, archive of the abbey of …) I would love to be able to create a sub-repo for this as well.
How do you all tackle this problem?

Eugene

You really only need yourself as a single layer of Repository.

The source could be a single entry with the basic information and the citation would be: Issue, Page

or… this is what I do…

Make each issue of the magazine a source with the citation the page information.

Here is an entry of a source and some of its citations you may find helpful. I have entries for the source going back to NEHGR:1 from 1847

Hello Dave,
That is a neat solution, but…

There is always a but :slight_smile:
In the author field I would like to put the author of the article, and the title of the article in the title field of the source…
Or would you put that in the page/volume or note of the citation?
This would cause a lot of unnessary extra typing if I have many citations to a certain article…

You can always create more the more specialized Source where in this case the source would be the Magazine, Issue: Article with the citation the Page.

Or…

Put the article in the citation: “Finding You Long Lost Uncle”, Mary Jane Smith, pages:99-110

I would tend to have fewer sources. putting more information into the citation. Using census records as an example I have the source “U.S. 1950 Federal Census” where the citation would start “Maine, Penobscot Co, Bangor District:11-56 Sheet:26 Line:15”. Other users put more information in the source: “U.S. 1950 Federal Census Maine, Penobscot Co, Bangor District:11-56”.

More information in the source creates more sources. No one way is correct or "The Best Practice’. Each user should have the same goal, provide the best information so that someone else could duplicate what you have found.

I would if you can do it, attach a scan of the page or pages to the citations. In my earlier example, I have PDF’s of volumes 1-80. These I attach to the source. This also may have influenced me having each volume as a single source. Volumes 81-178 have single page downloads or scans attached to citations.

Thank you very much for your explanation.
I think I do prefer more information in the source.

That way the citations in most reports will be neater.
Often I have a lot of citations to different pages within the same article.
Otherwise author and title would be repeated every time.
Eugene Dubois

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One idea that has been floated is to have a source hierarchy, This would fit nicely with your model.

Source 1: Magazine Title
Source 1a: Issue
Source 1b: Article

With the citations attached to Source 1b

Yes, that would be the perfect solution!

Someone was asking for priorities for the next release :wink:

There has been only a little documentation on the new Citation Formatter (CITE) plugin type so far.

I am hoping that it will grow and allow design of a New Citation dialogs which have Fields that link to Citation attributes. So you could add a couple extra field for periodicals/serials.

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You might want to take a look through existing feature requests too.

An alternative is to use a Bibliography software like JabRef or Zotero as your Source management software.
Create your collection hierarchy (Zotero),
Add the source and all the metadata for the source and get Zotero to create a citation and a bibliography for that source, then copy those strings to the source and to a citation in Gramps.

When/If Gramps ever get a hierachy for repositories, sources and citations, it will be relatively simple to move those around, since the citation will have the full source name in it…

Just a suggestion for another workaround…

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I do use zotero when creating reports for customers… So that’s definitely a possibility.

If you want to cite several pages of the same article, you can create a source, with author and title, for that, and put the magazine name and volume in pub. info field.

You may also create a repository for the magazine, or the Gens Nostra DVD, if you have that. But the repository data is often ignored in reports, so the pub. info is probably a better choice.

In the case of a family archive, or the Heineken personel files, I’d probably create a source for that too, because in that case the individual item is often a single photo or document that can be easily identified by the fields that you have in the citation.

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