Gramps 6.0.8
Debian 13 Trixie
I am entering peoples a lot, and I enter patronymic into surname field for each person, so I make a lot of extra movements pressing plus sign on the right and adding patronymic type of surname. Can I automate this process and make second surname as a default field on the name editor like any other, or at least can we auto-open multiple surnames window without pressing plus sign? Is name editor customizable?
In Preferences -> Data under Input Options -> Surname guessing you can select Icelandic Style. This is supposed to use the fathers first name + ‘sson’ or ‘dottir’ as the childs surname.
However I cannot make it work (Gramps 6.0.8 on macOS), the surname field is just empty. Maybe it works on linux?
If you are using 6.0, you might want to check out a recent addon addition - NameSuite (aka Patronymic Suggestion). It suggests East Slavic patronymic names. The wiki help is not yet available.
I installed the addon, but I don’t see how it will help me. Are you referring to the Contextual Patronymic suggestion panel (gramplet)? I wasn’t able to make it work, it is not showing for me in People or Relationship view. Even if I make it work, it doesn’t allow manual entering of Patronymic, only editing already existing one
Also don’t understand how Icelandic auto-complete will help me, I’m not Icelandic. Even if it works, I don’t really enter people like son or daughter of somebody, I enter person from scratch, so nowhere to guess from. And just FYI, this setting doesn’t work for me either on Linux.
I was thinking of the Tools → Family Tree Processing → Audit Given and Patronymic Names option. Audit Patronymics tab. Click the Audit Database button. This will generate the Patronymic name and you can choose which to accept or not. If the Patronymic is ‘right’, it will not appear in the list.
If you create people without the Patronymic and then run, it will add that name.
nope, not true. I just tried it and it doesn’t work that way. I created a test entry without patronymic, with single surname only, and when I pressed “audit database” it didn’t even show this entry in the audit list, so it suggests/audits only the entries with existing patronymic. This doesn’t fit my use-case, because I am entering entries from scratch. I don’t need any audit, I need just the quick entry and that’s it. For that quick entry I need both surname fields to be readily available in the name edit form.
btw, their audit works wrong for me. I see it supports Russian-formed patronymics, and I’m not Russian, so it’s useless for me. I don’t see any way how to configure its morphology to other langs.
ok, I played a little with this addon and I see its logic: it analyzes only people who have parents assigned and/or relationships. This doesn’t fit my case, as I have plenty of standalone people without parents and with parents whose names are unknown. I created a test entry with empty or non-empty patronymic, and it skipped my entry in both cases, so looks like it ignores people without relationship. This addon (provided it knew other langs) could be useful on the later stages of tree building, but not for initial entry. Thanks for suggestion, but it is quite useless for me.
Any scripting capabilities? Any hints how to extend the name editor fields? Any guide?
I was quite confident Gramps is very configurable and customizable if you know how to code Python, but seems I was wrong.
