# What does this floating icon mean? **URL:** \ **Category:** Help\ **Created:** [May 10, 2022, 6:16pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/what-does-this-floating-icon-mean/2436 "2022-05-10T18:16:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Davesellers](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/gramps.discourse.group/davesellers/32/1457_2.png) [@Davesellers](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/Davesellers)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2022, 6:16pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/what-does-this-floating-icon-mean/2436/1 "2022-05-10T18:16:11Z")
Version 5.1.4 Win10 When trying to scroll in the People window, I get the attached icon and have trouble getting rid of it. What does this mean? How do I clear it so I can use the scoll bar? ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/gramps/original/2X/2/22735f764714fd75988971d665fe8fc4ebaaf59c.png) ---
**Author:** ![DaveSch](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/gramps.discourse.group/davesch/32/40_2.png) [@DaveSch](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/DaveSch)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2022, 10:40pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/what-does-this-floating-icon-mean/2436/2 "2022-05-10T22:40:24Z")
Can you attach a larger screenshot of the view? It might help to see where the scrollbar is and to see what other things might be going on. On a related path, are you using the Themes addon? and if you are, are you using a theme not installed with Gramps? ---
**Author:** ![Davesellers](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/gramps.discourse.group/davesellers/32/1457_2.png) [@Davesellers](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/Davesellers)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2022, 1:41pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/what-does-this-floating-icon-mean/2436/3 "2022-05-11T13:41:56Z")
I will try to get the image but I don’t know what condition triggers it, it is random, that is why I asked. The scroll bar is there. When you click on it for the drag function that icon appears. You have to scroll with the mouse wheel and eventually the condition clears. ---
**Author:** ![DaveSch](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/gramps.discourse.group/davesch/32/40_2.png) [@DaveSch](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/DaveSch)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2022, 2:52pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/what-does-this-floating-icon-mean/2436/4 "2022-05-11T14:52:44Z")
What you describe tells me that it is a function of the theme you are using. Does it occur in all scrolled views? Are you using the Themes addon? Which theme? ---
**Author:** ![Davesellers](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/gramps.discourse.group/davesellers/32/1457_2.png) [@Davesellers](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/Davesellers)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2022, 3:12pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/what-does-this-floating-icon-mean/2436/5 "2022-05-11T15:12:19Z")
Looks like I’m using the Adwaita theme with the fixed scrollbar option checked. I could try changing it to Raleigh or remove the option checkmark to see what happens. ---
**Author:** ![DaveSch](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/gramps.discourse.group/davesch/32/40_2.png) [@DaveSch](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/DaveSch)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2022, 3:22pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/what-does-this-floating-icon-mean/2436/6 "2022-05-11T15:22:18Z")
Set the theme to another and after restarting Gramps switch back to Awaita. See if that clears rhe glitch. ---
**Author:** ![Wildkat](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/gramps.discourse.group/wildkat/32/1143_2.png) [@Wildkat](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/Wildkat)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2022, 3:31pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/what-does-this-floating-icon-mean/2436/7 "2022-05-11T15:31:19Z")
I get this same icon every time I accidentally drag anything, but it goes away when I release my mouse button ![Screenshot 2022-05-11 114113](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/gramps/original/2X/0/0c0dc4a26e83d8806a2991f3dc71111385a74514.png) ---
**Author:** ![emyoulation](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/gramps.discourse.group/emyoulation/32/67_2.png) [@emyoulation](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/emyoulation)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2022, 3:50pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/what-does-this-floating-icon-mean/2436/8 "2022-05-11T15:50:40Z")
Where is is located relative to the origin of the main Gramps window? I wonder if it might be drawn in the wrong screen position due to a corruption of a saved window position? (Or maybe was a programmer debug feature that didn’t get turned off. If your configuration is multi-screen, please ID the screen: primary, secondary, tertiary.) Could you try closing Gramps, renaming the `gramps51/gramps.ini` in the [Gramps User Directory](https://gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php/Gramps_Glossary#user_directory), then seeing if the icon reappears during a drag? (You’ll want the restore the .ini file after the test. It is a pain to remember all the paths, display & ID formats that would have to be reset manually.) ---
**Author:** ![DaveSch](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/gramps.discourse.group/davesch/32/40_2.png) [@DaveSch](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/DaveSch)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2022, 4:11pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/what-does-this-floating-icon-mean/2436/9 "2022-05-11T16:11:34Z")
The object’s icon is normal to appear when using drag-n-drop. Do it in another view and its icon will appear. What @Davesellers is describing is instead of a blue active slider in the scroll bar, it has been replaced by the icon. The normal Adwaiter theme has it invisible when not in use, a gray slider when you hover your mouse over the slide bar and a blue slider when you actually click your mouse on it and make it active. The slider is actually a small png image. The problem is that the default Adwaita seems to be a compiled file built into the Gramps install. (At least I never found the controlling css files.) I do not understand how it could have been corupted. ---
**Author:** ![Davesellers](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/gramps.discourse.group/davesellers/32/1457_2.png) [@Davesellers](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/Davesellers)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2022, 6:37pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/what-does-this-floating-icon-mean/2436/10 "2022-05-11T18:37:17Z")
@DaveSch may have given me the clue needed. The Adwaiter theme has a very thin scroll bar compared to the Raleigh theme. The icon appears when it thinks you are moving the selected line. I’m thinking than sometimes it does not know that I’m clicking on the scrollbar. It is very small until you actually mouse over it. (I didn’t pick up on this before, maybe I’m trying to select it before it expands or there is a condition where by it does not). The Raleigh theme has a much bigger scrollbar, so I’m going to change over to than for a while and see if the same condition come back. Thanks all. ---
**Author:** ![DaveSch](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/gramps.discourse.group/davesch/32/40_2.png) [@DaveSch](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/DaveSch)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2022, 10:07pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/what-does-this-floating-icon-mean/2436/11 "2022-05-11T22:07:13Z")
One other option to consider is the upgrade to 5.1.5. This would give you a clean version of Adwaita. But also now that you have started experimenting switching Themes, there are many options available. > [@Suggested downloadable themes for the Themes addon](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/suggested-downloadable-themes-for-the-themes-addon/1408): > > Here are some GTK themes that users might like to download and install for Gramps in the [Themes Addon](https://gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php/Addon:Themes). [Greybird-Modv2](https://www.gnome-look.org/p/1014510/)[Crown Blue](https://www.gnome-look.org/p/1291526/)[Victory Gtk Theme](https://www.gnome-look.org/p/1249341/) And this discusses my attempts to create my own theme with some additional links to other themes. > [@Modifying Themes](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/modifying-themes/1938): > > I have been exploring changing my Gramps theme using the Themes addon. Most themes I have tried, downloaded from [Gnome-look.org](https://www.gnome-look.org/s/Gnome/browse/), have been unsuitable when compared to Adwaita. My major problem with Adwaita is the large Tabs. Opening an edit window, I want to be able to see all available tabs without scrolling right/left. I have taken one of the themes from Gnome-look and have been modifying it to meet my needs. My Problem. In the Relationships view, hovering over any of the non-active people,… ---
**Author:** ![Davesellers](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/gramps.discourse.group/davesellers/32/1457_2.png) [@Davesellers](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/Davesellers)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2022, 3:08pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/what-does-this-floating-icon-mean/2436/12 "2022-05-12T15:08:11Z")
There is a follow up rhetorical question. If you are not allowed to move lines in the People display, why is that uninformative icon used. Should it not be something like a circle with a line through it? Just a thought. I did remove the gramps51.ini file and restart. The icon changed slightly (had a plus sign in it), but acted the same. ---
**Author:** ![davepop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e57/32.png) [@davepop](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/davepop)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2022, 3:14pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/what-does-this-floating-icon-mean/2436/13 "2022-05-17T15:14:49Z")
I get the same issue with 5.1.5 and Windows 11. I can reproduce it by selecting an individual in the People view; switching to the Relationship view and selecting a related individual; switch back to People view and try to move the scroll bar; little man appears. Then if I switch back to the relationship view and back again (without changing the selection) all is OK. Hope that helps. ---
**Author:** ![Davesellers](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/gramps.discourse.group/davesellers/32/1457_2.png) [@Davesellers](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/Davesellers)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2022, 8:03pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/what-does-this-floating-icon-mean/2436/14 "2022-05-17T20:03:40Z")
Yes, I can duplicate that too, however it does go away. When I had the issue nothing I did in the People screen would get it to stop. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/gramps/original/1X/2ac1e712b7adf612e31ca08a55419f4cf37c0158.png) [@system](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/system)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2022, 8:04pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/what-does-this-floating-icon-mean/2436/15 "2022-06-16T20:04:37Z")
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