Is there a way that I might be able to record a Bibliography under a Source book? I might also want to use if to flag which Primary References I should be trying to access at a repository.
In this way, we might be able to flag how far distant a citation is away from a primary source. And determining if a citation is a paraphrase, synthesis or critical analysis of another reference work helps to keep a researcher from spinning their wheels.
Just tried the AnyStyle online citation parser ( Ruby based) by Sylvester Keil with surprisingly good (not anywhere near perfect) results. It generates CSL-JSON, XML, and BibTeX
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Hereās a sample chunk of an amateur bibliography I had lying around to run through their parser via copy & paste.
Sturluson, Snorri. Heimskringla ā History of the Kings of Norway; University of Texas Press, Austin, 1964.
Swenson, Viggo. Zion's Storied Windows; Zion Lutheran Church, Harrisburg PA, 1955.
Tappert, Theodore G. History of the Lutheran Theological Seminary at Philadelphia, 1864-1964; 1964.
Thompson, Ruth Horn. Collateral Genealogical Chars of All Families of the Horn/Chisolm/Jacobs/Downings; Original chart Manuscripts, Two Volumes.
Thompson, Ruth Horn. Wills and Estate Inventories of Ancestors ā Copies of the exact documents ā [See Schedule 1)
Thompson, Ruth Horn; Horn, John C., Wald Horn, Solveig. The Horn Chisolm Jacobs Downing Genealogy of 1978.
Townsend, Leah. South Carolina Baptists 1670-1805; Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore MD, 1974.
Traill, William of Woodwick. A Genealogical Account of the Traills of Orkney with a Pedigree Table; Kirkwall & Calder, 1883.
von Horn Family. A history going back to the 13th Century; 107 pages, Morman Genealogical Library. 929.273 H783a
Wardlaw, Joseph G. Genealogy of the Witherspoon Family; Michigan University (photostat), 1978.
Weaver, Ethan A. The Forks of the Delaware; Eschenbach Printing Co., Easton PA, 1900.
Weaver, Ethan A. The History of Easton; E. T. Horn Resourcebook No. Item No 5.
Wentz, Abdel R. The Gettysburg Seminary History Vol.I 1826-1965; Evangelical Press, Harrisburg PA, 1965.
Wentz, Abdel R. The Gettysburg Seminary Alumni Record Vol.II; Evangelical Press, Harrisburg PA, 1984.
Weirbach, Eugene S. Genealogical Data on the Horn Family of Bucks County PA; from Mormon Records.
Wiley, D. N. ā Letters of Benjamin Kurtz, 1826-27; Susquehanna University, edited April 1980
Witherspoon, Joseph B. ā The History & Genealogy of the Witherspoon Family (1400-1972); Miran Publishers, Fort Worth TX, 1973
Wolf, Edmund J. ā The Lutherans in America ā J. A. Hill Co., NYC, 1889.
Maybe this site will be of interest for you: https://zbib.org/
Nice
Ā« Sources and Citations: some thoughts Ā». The Gramps Project (Discourse Forum & Mailing List), 27 novembre 2022, h-ttps://gramps.discourse.group/t/sources-and-citations-some-thoughts/2899/64
Added a dash to the URL so that Discourse doesnāt turn it into a link - but Discourse is more precise (author, answer numberā¦). Without dash:
Ā« Sources and Citations: some thoughts Ā». The Gramps Project (Discourse Forum & Mailing List) , 27 novembre 2022, Sources and Citations: some thoughts - #64 by StoltHD
I think that is because discourse maybe do not have that in its open API, not sure, but it does look like it is something they add internally, the āby xxā partā¦
I have never used discourse as a source for any of my research, so I have never thought about itā¦ 
But I am sure if anyone ask the Zotero team about it, they will check it out and add it if it is open accessible informationā¦
And it might be just what citation style you used?.. Iām not sureā¦
Can some of this conversation be used to understand the purpose of the āAdd support for CITE pluginsā PR#1403 until documentation is developed? And is the creation of CITE plugin relevant to GEPS 018: Evidence style sources?
A discussion (4 Aug 2024) was just started in the Gramps for Genealogists Facebook group about the different approaches using the Gramps Citation/Source/Repositories system. Specifically, it notes that the wiki gives no examples citing Sources as a Lumper versus as a Splitter.
The wiki doesnāt give much on any source or citation examples. It has a lot of links that go to blank pages. This would be a good project to beef out this section of the wiki. It could go a long ways in aiding new users of Gramps.
Iāve had not had enough opinion or excitment about Gramps capabilities with Citations to work on lapses in the wiki ā¦ or even explore them or the feature.
It feels like everything is a workaround. And there seem to be very few power tools to ease the workflow.
Some early docs were very ā¦ insistentā¦ that every entry should have a source. That you werenāt doing Genealogy unless each data point was sourced. But if the early Gramps Developers felt that way then there would be some sort of Citation/Source guessing/painting feature like there is for Names or Event types. After all, when youāre doing data entry, you tend to be transcribing 1 source at a time. (Unless youāre flowing in a bibliography.) I felt VERY uncomfortable continuing that insistence in the wiki given the painful workflow. Yet it was disrepectful to remove it. So i just avoided working on the feature documentation altogether.
I had expected some sort of ācaps lockā equivalent feature. Where Gramps would either pre-fill the New Object dialog when adding Citation (or a Source) or automatically share that Citation in other types of new secondary object dialogs.
There has been some discussion and a feature request for a Home Place feature to simplify rendering of Hierarchical place title displays. But it could be used as a ācaps lockā for Place guessing too. So a Home Object metaphor could be extended into another secondary guessing for sharing. But that means (unlike Person) that there would need to be a way of releasing the āHome objectā caps-lock on the Citation (or Source) and Place.
The sole place thereās a power tool for citations is the Import preference (which seems to be restricted to GEDCOMs). Unfortunately, both it and auto-tagging mangle the ālast changedā timestamp embedded for each record in the GEDCOM.
Maybe ācaps-lockā could be the interface ? If the shift or caps lock modified the click on the Add or Share button for an Object, then Gramps would use the Selected Object in that category?
In most ways, Gramps source/citation system is way more powerful then any other software out there with maybe the exception of a template system similar to Rootsmagic and Familyhistorian. I make extensive use of sources/citation for individual images that I receive from family which gramps is the only software that lets me do that without having to attach a note. I would recommend adding a title field to citations that would make it easier to display so you donāt have a long string from the citation to look through and not having to use the find gramplet. Also it would be a great help if under references for a citation it listed all persons that share that source or citation instead of just the primary and other events. When I do a census, it shows just the primary person for the census event but not any other family members if you use roles.
I see the framework and potential for gramps Citations to be more powerful. But that potential is only lightly realized so far.
The new plug-in type opens the pathway for a developer and the sample plug-in whets the appetite to develop.