# Scaling issues with Gramps on high resolution display in Windows
**URL:** https://gramps.discourse.group/t/scaling-issues-with-gramps-on-high-resolution-display-in-windows/2820
**Category:** Ideas
**Created:** [October 2, 2022, 9:51am UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/scaling-issues-with-gramps-on-high-resolution-display-in-windows/2820 "2022-10-02T09:51:16Z")
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### Author:  [@Mihle](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/Mihle)
#### Post date: [October 2, 2022, 9:51am UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/scaling-issues-with-gramps-on-high-resolution-display-in-windows/2820/1 "2022-10-02T09:51:17Z")
So, I updated to 5.1.5 (from 5.1.3) today and got reminded that when installing Gramps standard, on 4k screen with scaling to 125%, Gramps looks fuzzy or blurry.
The fix is to go to the .exe in the compability tab, press change High DPI Settings and Select the override scaling behavor and set it to application.
The differences is larger for my eyes when using Gramps than it is on the images, but:
Here is without doing the fix:
This is after doing the fix
Is there anything Gramps can do so its not needed to manually do this? Like maybe some line of code or setting to tell windows to let the application (gramps) do the scaling? (because gramps do a good job when its set to force application to do it)
If so I might create a Mantis thing on it.
Most programs dont have this issue.
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### Author:  [@emyoulation](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/emyoulation)
#### Post date: [October 2, 2022, 3:01pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/scaling-issues-with-gramps-on-high-resolution-display-in-windows/2820/2 "2022-10-02T15:01:57Z")
This Windoze issue was reported in [12473](https://gramps-project.org/bugs/view.php?id=12473): “[wiki] Solution for blurry text on high DPI monitors” and the [Font troubleshooting wiki page](https://gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php/Font_troubleshooting#Blurry_fonts) was updated to note the behavior. And a [similar issue](https://gramps-project.org/bugs/view.php?id=7601) with retina hi-res displays on Apple products.
The Retina issue noted a high resolution patch in the GTK 3.1 library. (see [Hi-DPI](https://wiki.gnome.org/HowDoI/HiDpi/)) So Gramps the issue would remain until Gramps switches over to an updated version of GTK.
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### Author:  [@Mihle](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/Mihle)
#### Post date: [October 2, 2022, 3:37pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/scaling-issues-with-gramps-on-high-resolution-display-in-windows/2820/3 "2022-10-02T15:37:29Z")
Ah, I tried to search for that one, did find the mac one, but didnt find that one.
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### Author:  [@StoltHD](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/StoltHD)
#### Post date: [October 10, 2022, 3:39pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/scaling-issues-with-gramps-on-high-resolution-display-in-windows/2820/4 "2022-10-10T15:39:37Z")
> [@Mihle](#):
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> Most programs dont have this issue.
I have similar issue with multiple Java applications too, most often text that doesn’t scale at all on 4K monitors, for me the solution has been to use “System (Advanced)” in those cases, I have also found that to be a good setting for Gramps, but it is not that much of a difference that I have found… except that all the columns etc. change to really strange lengths when you switch between those settings.
This is a setting I have been using for many years, both for Gramps and other Python applications, but also for a lot of Java applications…
It also works for some older “C” applications that doesn’t have “scaling” at all built in…
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### Author:  [@Mihle](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/Mihle)
#### Post date: [October 10, 2022, 5:18pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/scaling-issues-with-gramps-on-high-resolution-display-in-windows/2820/5 "2022-10-10T17:18:49Z")
Setting override scaling to Application works fine for gramps. How many other programs you experience with depens on what programs you use tho.
Dont have issue with most, exept installers, installers is often wrong but program itself is fine when done.
I really think what is missing is some code that tells Windows to let Gramps do the scaling or something, i dont know.
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### Author:  [@StoltHD](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/StoltHD)
#### Post date: [October 10, 2022, 7:26pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/scaling-issues-with-gramps-on-high-resolution-display-in-windows/2820/6 "2022-10-10T19:26:11Z")
I agree with you, just wanted to say that it is not just Gramps that have this problem…
I use at least 5 different research applications with scaling problems on Windows 11 and 4K monitors
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### Author:  [@emyoulation](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/emyoulation)
#### Post date: [August 7, 2024, 9:35pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/scaling-issues-with-gramps-on-high-resolution-display-in-windows/2820/9 "2024-08-07T21:35:35Z")
@Mihle
Does this issue still exist? Searching MantisBT finds a similar one for the Wiki that was resolved. But I do not find an Issue reported for Gramps.
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### Author:  [@Mihle](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/Mihle)
#### Post date: [August 7, 2024, 10:01pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/scaling-issues-with-gramps-on-high-resolution-display-in-windows/2820/10 "2024-08-07T22:01:31Z")
> [@emyoulation](#):
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> @Mihle
> Does this issue still exist? Searching MantisBT finds a similar one for the Wiki that was resolved. But I do not find an Issue reported for Gramps.
It was fixed for me. It being blurry.
Didnt have to change it when I updated to 5.2.
Dont know if its because Gramps, Windows, or both.