# Recreated family tree from the backup data

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**Tags:** data-recovery\
**Created:** [October 7, 2024, 2:45pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/recreated-family-tree-from-the-backup-data/6190 "2024-10-07T14:45:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![sachinpandhare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3be4f8/32.png) [@sachinpandhare](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/sachinpandhare)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 2:45pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/recreated-family-tree-from-the-backup-data/6190/1 "2024-10-07T14:45:34Z")

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Gramps 5.2.3  
Current: Windows 11 Enterprise version OS.  
Older: Windows 10 Enterprise version OS.

I created my family tree on Gramps (earlier version 4.2).  
But I had not exported the data in xml or gpkg format.  
I have the complete (backup + root) folder copied where created the family tree. Frankly, I don’t know what it contains.  
How can I can recreate the whole family tree again in the new version of Gramps?

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**Author:** ![emyoulation](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/gramps.discourse.group/emyoulation/32/67_2.png) [@emyoulation](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/emyoulation)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 3:09pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/recreated-family-tree-from-the-backup-data/6190/2 "2024-10-07T15:09:22Z")

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1st Search that folder for a `grampsdb` subdirectory. (If you do not have a subdirectory with that name, we’ll have to try another approach.)

_ **Back up the folder!** _ I would download a 4.2.8 PortableApps version of GrampsPortable and put it (plus the data file) on a USB thumb drive. Then verify the data is accessible from it. (Alway make certain you have a working backup before upgrading.  
The 4.2.x preferences:  
 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/gramps/original/2X/7/795e856fddf55de30f381a9808c3f15751944327.png)

If that exists, you can point the Database path in the Family Tree tab of the 5.2 Preferences at that folder.

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/gramps/original/2X/5/570ba2e55a33ab6ad7bc2851651d4a935f59587f.png)

The Family Tree dialog should show any Trees you had created. Opening a 4.2 tree will have to convert the BSDDB database file to the 5.2 SQLite backend.

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**Author:** ![ennoborg](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/gramps.discourse.group/ennoborg/32/4659_2.png) [@ennoborg](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/ennoborg)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 4:15pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/recreated-family-tree-from-the-backup-data/6190/3 "2024-10-07T16:15:55Z")

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When you install Gramps 5.2.x on a new system, it will create a gramps folder inside

C:\Users\ennob\AppData\Local

or a similar folder with your name in it. This is a hidden folder, but you probably know that already, because you already have a backup from

C:\Users\ennob\AppData\Roaming

on your old system.

And if this is the case, it’s probably safe to paste a copy of the old grampsdb folder inside the new gramps folder, replacing that gramps\grampsdb. This is most likely quite safe, because when you create a new tree, Gramps creates a random folder for that inside grampsdb, so it’s likely that the folder names will not clash.

Then, when you try to load a tree on the new machine, Gramps will probably tell you that it’s old and needs to be converted. And that is quite safe too, because it always creates a ZIP file with the old contents of that same numbered folder.

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/gramps/original/1X/2ac1e712b7adf612e31ca08a55419f4cf37c0158.png) [@system](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/system)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 4:16pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/recreated-family-tree-from-the-backup-data/6190/4 "2024-11-06T16:16:22Z")

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