# Patronymic and Matronymic name

**URL:** <https://gramps.discourse.group/t/patronymic-and-matronymic-name/1684>\
**Category:** Genealogy\
**Tags:** bug-filed\
**Created:** [July 27, 2021, 9:52am UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/patronymic-and-matronymic-name/1684 "2021-07-27T09:52:05Z")\
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**Author:** ![DaveSch](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/gramps.discourse.group/davesch/32/40_2.png) [@DaveSch](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/DaveSch)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2021, 11:57am UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/patronymic-and-matronymic-name/1684/5 "2021-07-29T11:57:54Z")

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An observation of what Gramps is currently doing.

A person with a single surname with the origin set Patronymic and with the Group As override set gets grouped as if they have no surname information.

 ![nameeditor](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/gramps/original/2X/b/b192e3eabf664bd75ea89dfe016a114d760b618e.png)

 ![grouped list](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/gramps/original/2X/0/0b1fc344ef81089c7b35cd3ee4a5da3cbf412333.png)

FYI: my Name display is `Given Surname, Suffix`

FYI: The `[Missing Surname]` is the result of the [Bug 0012333](https://gramps-project.org/bugs/view.php?id=12333) and the corresponding [Pull Request 1269](https://github.com/gramps-project/gramps/pull/1269).

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