New FamilyTreeView Addon

[ztlxltl]

@codefarmer

I’m aware of a helper function to choose a contrasting color which was done as part of the fix for bug 11799; maybe it will help here?

@codefarmer
Thanks for the suggestion! I’ll take a closer look at this bug report.
I reimplemented a function from Gramps to get contrasting colors in the HTML/CSS/JS implementation of FamilyTreeView. Maybe this is the one you’re referring to.

[Urchello]

@ztlxltl

Actually, I added those two days ago (see here).

yes, Its exactly what I asked about! I have not the last version. Got it.

@ztlxltl

formatter that uses “~”, “<”, “>” and the like to save space (similar to the idea of abbreviating long names).

yes, it would be great to add more chars in future.

Got it. Thanks for the answers!

[ztlxltl]

@Urchello

Show associative people

This sounds like an interesting idea. I’m not sure where to put them in the chart, but I’ll keep this idea in mind.

[hamkg]

@ztlxltl

I should be able to add an option to make the boxes smaller and show no image or avatar at all for all people.

That would be a nice option!

[hamkg]

A very nice addon for gramps even if it took me some time to fix the dependencies for all functionalities (on my slackware linux I had to install goocanvas, graphviz and xdot).

I’ve noticed that the distance between generations increases with the distance from the active person, could that be changed? It makes it difficult to navigate among the earliest generations in a tree with > 8 generations.

[Urchello]

@hamkg

I’ve noticed that the distance between generations increases with the distance from the active person, could that be changed? It makes it difficult to navigate among the earliest generations in a tree with > 8 generations.

I also agree with this. My vote +1

[hamkg]

After looking more carefully I found that it’s already possible to reduce distance between generations, in FTV settings > Experimental. Great! Maybe this was added in v. 1.40 - or did I just miss it earlier?

[hamkg]

Oh, and another item on my wish list: Would it be possible to show birth and death place in the tree’s boxes?

[ztlxltl]

@hamkg

@ztlxltl

I should be able to add an option to make the boxes smaller and show no image or avatar at all for all people.

That would be a nice option!

@hamkg

Would it be possible to show birth and death place in the tree’s boxes?

@hamkg
I’m planning to add a configuration for the boxes where you can select what to show in the boxes. You could deselect the picture/avatar and select the place of birth and death. Right now, I have other high priorities, but it’s on my list.

@hamkg

A very nice addon for gramps

Thank you for your kind words!

@hamkg

it took me some time to fix the dependencies for all functionalities (on my slackware linux I had to install goocanvas, graphviz and xdot).

Why did you had to install graphviz and xdot? They are not dependencies of FamilyTreeView. They are dependencies of GraphView, whose search bar is displayed if available, but GraphView or it dependencies are not a prerequisite.

@hamkg

I’ve noticed that the distance between generations increases with the distance from the active person, could that be changed? It makes it difficult to navigate among the earliest generations in a tree with > 8 generations.

This has been asked several times. Just yesterday, @Urchello asked this. You already found the option, but let me quote my answer from yesterday to @Urchello and highlight the important part:

@ztlxltl

There is an experimental config to use an adaptive approach to calculate the generation distance. I only got positive feedback from one user, so I’m not sure if there are any problems with special cases. Once a few people have tested this experimental approach, I’ll make it the default.

So, if you want this to be the default, please give me feedback!

@hamkg

Maybe this was added in v. 1.40 - or did I just miss it earlier?

It was added quite a while ago (and I’ve been waiting for feedback since then), but I agree that it’s a bit hidden in the experimentals page of the config window.

@hamkg

Anyone else experienced the following oddity?

@hamkg

LANG=sv-utf8

I’m not sure why Gramps has problems when a translation is missing. It sounds more like a problem with the plugin manager because I can’t control what it tries to download and how it behaves when it can’t find a translation file.
The alternative interpretation of this behavior would be that Gramps requires me to provide translation files for all possible languages. @emyoulation Can this be the case?
In my opinion, the best solution would be to catch the problem in Gramps’ plugin management.

@emyoulation I’m still waiting for a response from Nick (see here) to move forward on this topic. Do you have any news for me regarding this?

[ztlxltl]

@Urchello

@hamkg

I’ve noticed that the distance between generations increases with the distance from the active person, could that be changed? It makes it difficult to navigate among the earliest generations in a tree with > 8 generations.

I also agree with this. My vote +1

@Urchello
Did you have any problems with the option mentioned in my response from yesterday:

@ztlxltl

@Urchello

The next question: is it OK that each the next (older) generation has bigger distance than the previous one? It look not very good as for me.

There is an experimental config to use an adaptive approach to calculate the generation distance. I only got positive feedback from one user, so I’m not sure if there are any problems with special cases. Once a few people have tested this experimental approach, I’ll make it the default.

Maybe I wasn’t clear enough about where to find it? Sorry about that! You can find it on the experimental page in the FamilyTreeView’s config window.

[Urchello]

@ztlxltl

Maybe I wasn’t clear enough about where to find it?

Im sorry, I understoot it only now ))). I’ve updated the addon, found the experimental option, turned on it, and everything looks nice!

Its REALLY cool! Earlier I said that the best tree view has Myheritrage, but now I know two the best tree builders !

[ztlxltl]

@Urchello

I’ve updated the addon, found the experimental option, turned on it, and everything looks nice!

@Urchello

Its REALLY cool! Earlier I said that the best tree view has Myheritrage, but now I know two the best tree builders !

@Urchello
I’m glad it works for you and you like the FamilyTreeView. Please continue to request useful futures and report bugs. The view is still under development, and I’m eager to make it as useful as possible (after everyone has tweaked the options to their liking).

[Urchello]

One more small suggestion which can be actual for big trees is: maybe alternate lines colors? when it will be 5-10-15 horizontal black lines - it will be difficult to find card by line. Here is only 3 lines - its OK

Or maybe go between cards by clicking the lines (I dont know, maybe its impossible)?

[ztlxltl]

@Urchello

maybe alternate lines colors?

@Urchello
The low contrast is due to the dark theme. Adapting to dark theme is on my todo list and as more and more people report it, I’m moving it up my list.

@Urchello

Or maybe go between cards by clicking the lines (I dont know, maybe its impossible)?

That’s actually already implemented, as an experimental option. I explained it in detail here:

@ztlxltl

You have to double-click on the connection line, not the person/family box.
If the connection is just vertical, the bottom half will take you to the ancestor family and the top half will take you to the descendant.
If the connection has a horizontal line, the boundary between these two different “zones” is at the horizontal line itself: the vertical line connecting the descendant to the horizontal part can be double-clicked to jump to the ancestor family, the vertical line connecting the ancestor family to the horizontal line lets you jump to the descendant. The horizontal part itself is not clickable.

Note that jumping to a descendant is disabled when there are multiple descendants, since the target would be ambiguous.
Also note that the view is only scrolled, the active person doesn’t change.

You might have to zoom in a little bit, maybe the clickable area is too small if you zoomed out a lot.

It sounds very complicated when writing it down, but I think it is intuitive once you do it. Just remember that you have to double-click.

I also plan to implement an alternative placement of the boxes where the lines are easier to follow. But that will take some time due to other priorities on my list.

[Urchello]

@ztlxltl another question about zoom-in, zoom-out. Is it possible make font size fixed when a card is zoomed? So, even if some content is truncated we can zoom-in and all the content will appear .

What do you think, does it make sense?

[ztlxltl]

@Urchello

Is it possible make font size fixed when a card is zoomed?

@Urchello
Thanks for the question. I actively decided not to do that and added the info box for that (by default it opens on single click). The text in the info box doesn’t change when you zoom.
In your case, where you cannot see the dates because they are “estimated”/“calculated”, it would be helpful, but it would only be a workaround. As I said, I have finding a solution for long dates on my todo list.

[emyoulation]

@ztlxltl

I have finding a solution for long dates on my todo list

Some other features use tooltips for expanded listings. (I should really check that it isn’t already doing that before posting… but I’m working from my phone today.)

[ztlxltl]

No, tooltips are not implemented, but this is a great idea and therefore ANOTHER item for my todo list.

[emyoulation]

The delay on popping tooltips will be a delicate balance.

If they appear too quickly, they make the GUI less responsive and, when mousing the mouse pointer downwards, are problematic in that the tooltip might obscure the item that the user REALLY wants to indicate. (That’s less of a problem when the mouse pointer is moving upscreen.)