# Is it intentional that the place pointer in Geography view is different based on what you choose to view?

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**Tags:** gui, geography\
**Created:** [March 24, 2024, 6:56pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/is-it-intentional-that-the-place-pointer-in-geography-view-is-different-based-on-what-you-choose-to-view/5158 "2024-03-24T18:56:57Z")\
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The place pointer look different based on what you select that it should display:

If you select to show all known places for one person or one family, they look like this:  
 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/gramps/original/2X/e/eb67a9695423b795dd3a028e2980f0207680c341.jpeg)

But if you have it set to all known places view, and either show the one selected place, or all places, it looks like this:

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/gramps/original/2X/e/e22401831e912b6859c339cfd3119d341b870607.jpeg)  
 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/gramps/original/2X/b/be226c45b43e9169f95d0ab2a326d67fb2efc715.jpeg)

Is it intentional that they are different?  
Gramps 5.2

(btw, didnt know what category to choose here)

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**Author:** ![emyoulation](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/gramps.discourse.group/emyoulation/32/67_2.png) [@emyoulation](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/emyoulation)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2024, 11:50pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/is-it-intentional-that-the-place-pointer-in-geography-view-is-different-based-on-what-you-choose-to-view/5158/2 "2024-03-24T23:50:02Z")

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The different view modes have different functions for Pin representations.

The 1st view uses different shapes for different **Event types** : Birth, Death, Marriage, red pin and green pin.

The 2nd map allows “Configure” of Pin bubble colors for different **Place types**.

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**Author:** ![Mihle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/gramps.discourse.group/mihle/32/612_2.png) [@Mihle](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/Mihle)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2024, 8:32am UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/is-it-intentional-that-the-place-pointer-in-geography-view-is-different-based-on-what-you-choose-to-view/5158/3 "2024-03-25T08:32:46Z")

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> [@emyoulation](#):
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> The 1st view uses different shapes for different **Event types** : Birth, Death, Marriage, red pin and green pin.

After little more testing, in first view, there seem to be this symbol for both marriage and birth:  
 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/gramps/original/2X/1/11fba76fc8d8f52e74044042622f554e0b326467.png)  
That seem more like a Magnifying glass than anything else? What stuff is supposed to be red pin for example?

> [@emyoulation](#):
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> The 2nd map allows “Configure” of Pin bubble colors for different **Place types**

I didnt know that was a feature. Any reason the standard pin shape couldnt be the same between the maps, just change its colour? To me it looks kind of weird for them to be different. Is there a technical reason like you cant change the colour of the one pin to custom colour?

btw, off topic: To take advantage of that feature I would actually have to figure out what type to select on my places, as I dont feel the standard types in gramps fit. For example, is address an building, number, or street? is company a building? School or hospital that has multiple buildings (Campus)?

Another question, on the first maps, the pin seem to be different sizes based on how many events are at that place. But if all places have one event while one have two, the size difference is massive, like 4x the size, even if its just 1 vs 2 events on the location. Isnt that a little weird?  
 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/gramps/original/2X/b/bbf2a0100cec5c1108cdca03fb2b53b07ef39408.png)

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**Post date:** [March 25, 2024, 8:40am UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/is-it-intentional-that-the-place-pointer-in-geography-view-is-different-based-on-what-you-choose-to-view/5158/4 "2024-03-25T08:40:24Z")

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> [@Mihle](#):
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> What stuff is supposed to be red pin for example?

Red pins are for non free map providers (google, …)  
Green pins are for free map providers  
Red or green pins mean that you have multiple types of events for that place.

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**Post date:** [March 25, 2024, 9:19am UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/is-it-intentional-that-the-place-pointer-in-geography-view-is-different-based-on-what-you-choose-to-view/5158/5 "2024-03-25T09:19:42Z")

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> [@SNoiraud](#):
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> Red pins are for non free map providers (google, …)  
> Green pins are for free map providers

Ah, so something totally different then.

> [@SNoiraud](#):
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> Red or green pins mean that you have multiple types of events for that place.

I dont quite get what you mean by this?

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**Post date:** [March 25, 2024, 9:29am UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/is-it-intentional-that-the-place-pointer-in-geography-view-is-different-based-on-what-you-choose-to-view/5158/6 "2024-03-25T09:29:01Z")

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> [@Mihle](#):
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> I dont quite get what you mean by this?

A snapshot can explain this:

 ![green-pin.1](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/gramps/original/2X/a/a3007c0cc5a749d3044e8ea8a32ebdd3b425ca62.png)

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**Post date:** [March 25, 2024, 9:36am UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/is-it-intentional-that-the-place-pointer-in-geography-view-is-different-based-on-what-you-choose-to-view/5158/7 "2024-03-25T09:36:12Z")

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This is discussed in other threads.

Swapping out pin shapes:

> [@Geographic view](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/geographic-view/951/17):
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> Gramps user and commercial artist Barrie Phelan ( @bjpcorp ) created a set of Gramps map pins that might be used for experiments. [\_DeathPin] [\_GreenPin] [\_HeartPin] [\_RedPin] [\_SucettePin] @SNoiraud Would it just a matter of swapping them (or the .svg drawing format versions) for “magnifying glass” specifically named images in a folder? see [0012497](https://gramps-project.org/bugs/view.php?id=12497#c63929) : Development of a distinctive Gramps icon theme stencil Example below is for the “All Places for one person” Geography view mode. The magnify…

Some Geography items that missed the cut for 5.2

> [@Beta1 "Geography" - Linked for Feedback](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/beta1-geography-linked-for-feedback/3924/8):
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> items discussed for Geography that didn’t seem to make the cut for 5.2 [new pins](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/geographic-view/951/17) gramps-geo-mainmap.png [\_GreenPin] gramps-geo-altmap.png [\_RedPin] gramps-geo-birth.png [\_SucettePin] gramps-geo-marriage.png [\_HeartPin] gramps-geo-death.png [\_DeathPin] more concise names for Geography view modes [image] All known places for one Person Person’s Places All known places for one Family Family’s Places Ancestors map Ancestral Places Every residence or move for a person and any descendants …

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> [@SNoiraud](#):
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> A snapshot can explain this:

Well, there will be a green pin if there is just one event too?

> [@emyoulation](#):
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> This is discussed in other threads.
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> Swapping out pin shapes:

> [@emyoulation](#):
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> Some Geography items that missed the cut for 5.2

So it IS magnifying glass, yes, I think they should get new icons that looks less like magnifying glass. Those icons are better.  
But it would be better if the “normal” pin you could select more colours so that it can be used on the all places map too. My opinion is that the pin that is currently used on the all places map, looks more like a placeholder than anything else to me.

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> [@Mihle](#):
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> Another question, on the first maps, the pin seem to be different sizes based on how many events are at that place. But if all places have one event while one have two, the size difference is massive, like 4x the size, even if its just 1 vs 2 events on the location. Isnt that a little weird?  
> ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/gramps/original/2X/b/bbf2a0100cec5c1108cdca03fb2b53b07ef39408.png)

Related to this, it seems like size should depend on the number of events like it does. But it seems like if its no place with more than 2 events on them on the map, 1 event gets minimum size and 2 event one get maximum size.  
Shouldnt it instead be much smaller difference between them? Make the largest one half the size or the smallest one twice the size and it would make more sense to me.

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**Post date:** [March 28, 2024, 10:13pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/is-it-intentional-that-the-place-pointer-in-geography-view-is-different-based-on-what-you-choose-to-view/5158/10 "2024-03-28T22:13:55Z")

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I made a comment on this [12497](https://gramps-project.org/bugs/view.php?id=12497), based on what have been mentioned here.

And created this one:  
[0013241: [Geography view] Pin size difference between places with different number of events too large when there is only 1-2 events.](https://gramps-project.org/bugs/view.php?id=13241)

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