# How to access my tree from a new laptop? **URL:** \ **Category:** Help\ **Created:** [March 17, 2021, 9:50pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/how-to-access-my-tree-from-a-new-laptop/1317 "2021-03-17T21:50:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![pkg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f05b48/32.png) [@pkg](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/pkg)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2021, 9:50pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/how-to-access-my-tree-from-a-new-laptop/1317/1 "2021-03-17T21:50:50Z")
I am sorry but I don’t remember, or don’t know how to tell which Gramps version I am on. I just downloaded Gramps in September, 2020 and began my family tree. Then I had to pause until now. I am still very new at this. I am on a Windows 10 operating system. I now have a different laptop than I did when I first created my family tree. How do I get to my Gramps family tree from my new laptop? (I still have the original laptop, which is also Windows 10, but I need to use the new laptop now). Thank you! ---
**Author:** ![daleathan](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/gramps.discourse.group/daleathan/32/1701_2.png) [@daleathan](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/daleathan)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2021, 10:04pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/how-to-access-my-tree-from-a-new-laptop/1317/2 "2021-03-17T22:04:58Z")
The recommended way would be to make a backup on the old computer and then restore the backup on the new one see: - [**How to make a backup** of your Gramps genealogy Family Tree database.](https://gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php/How_to_make_a_backup) - [**How to restore a backup** of your Gramps genealogy Family Tree database.](https://gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=How_to_restore_a_backup) Good luck. ---
**Author:** ![emyoulation](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/gramps.discourse.group/emyoulation/32/67_2.png) [@emyoulation](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/emyoulation)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2021, 10:13pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/how-to-access-my-tree-from-a-new-laptop/1317/3 "2021-03-17T22:13:24Z")
_**[incorrect]**_ ~~Note that media files over 1MB are not stored IN the Gramps backup… Gramps just has paths for each fille anyway. Restoring a backup moved to the new machine does not move the media files.~~ Using the XML backup to move to a new installation is preferred because it eliminates the database engine & format from having any effect. Also, if your old Windoze box was 32-bit, make sure you install the 64-bit download of Gramps on the new box. It allows more memory to be directly accessible. ---
**Author:** ![daleathan](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/gramps.discourse.group/daleathan/32/1701_2.png) [@daleathan](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/daleathan)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2021, 10:17pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/how-to-access-my-tree-from-a-new-laptop/1317/4 "2021-03-17T22:17:54Z")
> [@emyoulation](#): > > Note that media files over 1MB are not stored IN the Gramps backup… Gramps just has paths for each fille anyway. Restoring a backup moved to the new machine does not move the media files. You need to choose to **Include** the **Media:**. in the backup ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/gramps/original/1X/66cb66ea2ac2a9f9b86222362ad74298340493e3.png) ---
**Author:** ![emyoulation](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/gramps.discourse.group/emyoulation/32/67_2.png) [@emyoulation](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/emyoulation)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2021, 10:31pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/how-to-access-my-tree-from-a-new-laptop/1317/5 "2021-03-17T22:31:10Z")
Yes. But that feature says it is limited to files under 1MB ---
**Author:** ![daleathan](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/gramps.discourse.group/daleathan/32/1701_2.png) [@daleathan](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/daleathan)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2021, 10:36pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/how-to-access-my-tree-from-a-new-laptop/1317/6 "2021-03-17T22:36:51Z")
> [@emyoulation](#): > > Yes. But that feature says it is limited to files under 1MB I’m looking at my backup with 3 GB of files in it so no it does not! Where did you get that idea exactly! Had a look at the [code](https://github.com/gramps-project/gramps/blob/c903f5e5a50b6b5a03ad2e55967607229d1565ed/gramps/gui/viewmanager.py#L1613) and can confirm no such weird restriction occurs. ---
**Author:** ![emyoulation](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/gramps.discourse.group/emyoulation/32/67_2.png) [@emyoulation](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/emyoulation)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2021, 1:35am UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/how-to-access-my-tree-from-a-new-laptop/1317/7 "2021-03-18T01:35:17Z")
Thanks for the correction. Was reading the dialog as fixed text instead of a calculation. (It has always been the same on mine & in the example.gramps test file.) The export dialog (which calculates the number of people) has a distinct indicator that is it not a static text label. The backup dialog lacks such an indicator. ---
**Author:** ![pkg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f05b48/32.png) [@pkg](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/pkg)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2021, 6:54pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/how-to-access-my-tree-from-a-new-laptop/1317/8 "2021-03-18T18:54:05Z")
Thank you very much! I will try that. ---
**Author:** ![pkg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f05b48/32.png) [@pkg](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/pkg)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2021, 9:00pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/how-to-access-my-tree-from-a-new-laptop/1317/9 "2021-03-19T21:00:41Z")
Thank you all! I got it! ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/gramps/original/1X/2ac1e712b7adf612e31ca08a55419f4cf37c0158.png) [@system](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/system)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2021, 9:01pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/how-to-access-my-tree-from-a-new-laptop/1317/10 "2021-04-18T21:01:31Z")
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