# How do you control/change View panel width and height **URL:** \ **Category:** Help\ **Tags:** css\ **Created:** [July 20, 2023, 4:42am UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/how-do-you-control-change-view-panel-width-and-height/3850 "2023-07-20T04:42:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![hviaene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b19c9b/32.png) [@hviaene](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/hviaene)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2023, 8:20am UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/how-do-you-control-change-view-panel-width-and-height/3850/21 "2023-07-25T08:20:52Z")
I have to correct something important: column resizing works with or without Nick’s patch. I have been fooled by the behavior of other programs, in the way that those change the mouse pointer to a two-headed arrow when you hover over the column separator. This does not happen in gramps so I presumed I could not grab the separator. So stupid … Sorry for the noise I created, so the problem limits to the panel separator. ---
**Author:** ![ennoborg](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/gramps.discourse.group/ennoborg/32/4659_2.png) [@ennoborg](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/ennoborg)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2023, 2:36pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/how-do-you-control-change-view-panel-width-and-height/3850/22 "2023-07-25T14:36:11Z")
> [@hviaene](#): > > I have been fooled by the behavior of other programs, in the way that those change the mouse pointer to a two-headed arrow when you hover over the column separator. This does not happen in gramps so I presumed I could not grab the separator. So stupid … To me, this still looks a bit weird, because I do see that two-headed arrow when I move my mouse pointer over column separators. I’m using Gramps in LMDE 5, which is short for Linux Mint Debian Edition, and comes with a Cinnamon desktop. ---
**Author:** ![emyoulation](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/gramps.discourse.group/emyoulation/32/67_2.png) [@emyoulation](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/emyoulation)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2023, 3:20pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/how-do-you-control-change-view-panel-width-and-height/3850/23 "2023-07-25T15:20:46Z")
When i use a touch pad, i find these control virtually impossible to use. Perhaps if I find the padding (or the threshold) CSS for the column borders, tweaking those might help. ---
**Author:** ![Nick-Hall](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/gramps.discourse.group/nick-hall/32/95_2.png) [@Nick-Hall](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/Nick-Hall)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2023, 3:36pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/how-do-you-control-change-view-panel-width-and-height/3850/24 "2023-07-25T15:36:15Z")
> [@hviaene](#): > > But I think this would be generic to all gramps users. Yes. I’ll create a `gramps.css` file in v5.2. I’ll also remove the black background colour. ---
**Author:** ![Nick-Hall](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/gramps.discourse.group/nick-hall/32/95_2.png) [@Nick-Hall](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/Nick-Hall)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2023, 3:40pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/how-do-you-control-change-view-panel-width-and-height/3850/25 "2023-07-25T15:40:22Z")
> [@ennoborg](#): > > To me, this still looks a bit weird, because I do see that two-headed arrow when I move my mouse pointer over column separators. I also see a two-headed arrow. The icon is called ‘col-resize’ and its actual appearance will depend on the icon theme. ---
**Author:** ![emyoulation](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/gramps.discourse.group/emyoulation/32/67_2.png) [@emyoulation](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/emyoulation)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2023, 4:25pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/how-do-you-control-change-view-panel-width-and-height/3850/26 "2023-07-25T16:25:55Z")
> [@hviaene](#): > > user customization. If I read this as gramps being a user of the gtk facilities, then I would agree. But I think this would be generic to all gramps users. User vs Application is a bit of a distinction of perspective. I suspect that a lot of CSS for Gramps modules has been done using the [internal or inline methods](https://www.w3schools.com/css/css_howto.asp) rather than a common CSS sheet. Or some might even use a privately managed CSS sheet. But I’m really talking about the layer of customization that a user might want direct control over. The Themes gives most of this control right now. It allows cusomization like font and point size. Which helps users of high-res monitors who have poor vision… or are doing a presentation with a high-def projection system to a large group. You have a specific case with the handles for resizing panels. I might be willing to fuss with a the infrequent resizing of a panel so that it doesn’t nibble away from the hotspots of a narrow vertical scrollbar. And I might chose the vanishing & narrow scrollbars instead of always visible & wide ones to buy extra space for a view. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/gramps/original/1X/2ac1e712b7adf612e31ca08a55419f4cf37c0158.png) [@system](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/system)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2023, 4:26pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/how-do-you-control-change-view-panel-width-and-height/3850/27 "2023-08-24T16:26:02Z")
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