# Help About showing system details **URL:** \ **Category:** Development\ **Created:** [December 18, 2023, 11:08am UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/help-about-showing-system-details/4534 "2023-12-18T11:08:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![comeng](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/2acd7d/32.png) [@comeng](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/comeng)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2023, 11:08am UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/help-about-showing-system-details/4534/1 "2023-12-18T11:08:57Z")
The Help/About pop up currently shows as below so either the popup has to expandable to show data or data needs a change of layout to fix box problem is marked with \* GRAMPS: 5.1.6 Python: 3.10.12 (main, Nov 20 2023, 15:14:05) [G… \* BSDDB: 6.2.9 (5, 3, 28) sqlite: 3.37.2 (2.6.0) LANG: en\_GB.UTF-8 OS: Linux Distribution: 6.2.0-39-generic Phil ---
**Author:** ![emyoulation](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/gramps.discourse.group/emyoulation/32/67_2.png) [@emyoulation](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/emyoulation)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2023, 6:32pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/help-about-showing-system-details/4534/2 "2023-12-18T18:32:18Z")
Looks like reasonable enhancement request. The beta releases of Gramps have version numbers that are incredibly long. It’d be nice if they didn’t have an ellipsis ~~asterisk~~ placeholder when copying too. ---
**Author:** ![comeng](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/2acd7d/32.png) [@comeng](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/comeng)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2023, 7:06pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/help-about-showing-system-details/4534/3 "2023-12-18T19:06:19Z")
The asterisk was mine to take the eye straight to the issue, apologies for any confusion this might have caused Phil ---
**Author:** ![emyoulation](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/gramps.discourse.group/emyoulation/32/67_2.png) [@emyoulation](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/emyoulation)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2023, 7:13pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/help-about-showing-system-details/4534/4 "2023-12-18T19:13:27Z")
Thanks for the clarification. By the way, there is a [discourse markdown](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/discourse-markdown-tags-revised/1503) reference page with a few ways to insert highlights. (Since they are used infrequently, you can just write “[discourse markdown](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/discourse-markdown-tags-revised/1503)” in your message. The preview will “[linkify](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/automated-hotlinks/2210)” that with a clickable link that can be opened in another tab.) ---
**Author:** ![comeng](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/2acd7d/32.png) [@comeng](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/comeng)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2023, 8:20pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/help-about-showing-system-details/4534/5 "2023-12-18T20:20:08Z")
Thanks Brian bit of a newbie on this extremely complex system Phil ---
**Author:** ![emyoulation](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/gramps.discourse.group/emyoulation/32/67_2.png) [@emyoulation](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/emyoulation)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2023, 8:43pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/help-about-showing-system-details/4534/6 "2023-12-18T20:43:15Z")
We all start there. And most of us only will ever use just a fraction of the capabilities. FYI, after many years without, a [PDF of the manual is available for download](https://gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php/User_manual_translations#Gramps_5.1.x_Manual). MUCH easier to search. ---
**Author:** ![codefarmer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b9e5f3/32.png) [@codefarmer](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/codefarmer)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2023, 11:58pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/help-about-showing-system-details/4534/7 "2023-12-18T23:58:24Z")
Code in the About box dialog truncates lines and adds ellipsis at the end if they are “too long”. In the About box version information, the Python version string in [line 149](https://github.com/gramps-project/gramps/blob/c5e5cce0088b290639c34fed400608194612e883/gramps/gui/aboutdialog.py#L149) seems to be the longest of them, something like (image below): Python: 3.6.4 (default, Jan 23 2018, 13:17:37) [GCC 7.2.0 64 bit (AMD64)] This is the output of `sys.version()` which includes not only the Python version (which seems to be the intent), but also info about the build and compiler. If that’s not required, we could change the call to `platform.python_version()` which returns a simpler string (image below): Python: 3.6.4 Is there any reason to include details about the Python bulid in the About box? If not I can submit a PR with this change. All calls to ellipses() could also be removed because most of the strings are small, and if they are longer than a line, they will wrap around to the next line which doesn’t seem like a bad thing. Thoughts? Python version full string, wrapped to next line: ![About-wrapped](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/gramps/original/2X/2/269f31964da61d589d8e20e6df0ea7fe64b41f17.png) Python version, short string: ![About-short](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/gramps/original/2X/2/25d1f535501adeb3fb5d3d992662853b287b31a5.png) ---
**Author:** ![comeng](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/2acd7d/32.png) [@comeng](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/comeng)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2023, 7:36am UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/help-about-showing-system-details/4534/8 "2023-12-19T07:36:29Z")
This only came about because It was the natural place to get the information as a copy and paste into my messages, as requested to Discourse if it does not help anybody responding to a query then for me it should be removed. Phil ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/gramps/original/1X/2ac1e712b7adf612e31ca08a55419f4cf37c0158.png) [@system](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/system)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 7:36am UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/help-about-showing-system-details/4534/9 "2024-01-18T07:36:38Z")
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