# Gramps Master starts in Arabic **URL:** \ **Category:** Development\ **Created:** [July 17, 2023, 9:14pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/gramps-master-starts-in-arabic/3843 "2023-07-17T21:14:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![moorob](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/gramps.discourse.group/moorob/32/586_2.png) [@moorob](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/moorob)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2023, 9:14pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/gramps-master-starts-in-arabic/3843/1 "2023-07-17T21:14:37Z")
Did a fresh install of master repository, but Gramps keeps coming up in Arabic on a manjaro linux system. ---
**Author:** ![Nick-Hall](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/gramps.discourse.group/nick-hall/32/95_2.png) [@Nick-Hall](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/Nick-Hall)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2023, 10:10pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/gramps-master-starts-in-arabic/3843/2 "2023-07-17T22:10:23Z")
What are the values of your `LANG` and `LANGUAGE` environment variables? ---
**Author:** ![moorob](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/gramps.discourse.group/moorob/32/586_2.png) [@moorob](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/moorob)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2023, 10:46pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/gramps-master-starts-in-arabic/3843/3 "2023-07-17T22:46:20Z")
en\_US.UTF-8 on linux, gramps -v shows Ar.AA. ---
**Author:** ![Nick-Hall](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/gramps.discourse.group/nick-hall/32/95_2.png) [@Nick-Hall](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/Nick-Hall)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2023, 11:03pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/gramps-master-starts-in-arabic/3843/4 "2023-07-17T23:03:36Z")
Which git commit? The commit is in the status bar. ---
**Author:** ![moorob](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/gramps.discourse.group/moorob/32/586_2.png) [@moorob](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/moorob)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2023, 11:29pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/gramps-master-starts-in-arabic/3843/5 "2023-07-17T23:29:28Z")
1456d10 is the one I downloaded. ---
**Author:** ![Nick-Hall](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/gramps.discourse.group/nick-hall/32/95_2.png) [@Nick-Hall](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/Nick-Hall)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2023, 11:36pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/gramps-master-starts-in-arabic/3843/6 "2023-07-17T23:36:22Z")
That’s the latest version. Did you actually install it or are you just running it from the git source? Did you remember to build it with `python setup.py build`? ---
**Author:** ![moorob](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/gramps.discourse.group/moorob/32/586_2.png) [@moorob](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/moorob)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2023, 3:33am UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/gramps-master-starts-in-arabic/3843/7 "2023-07-18T03:33:39Z")
Yes. I then deleted Gramps from system and did manual install of 5.1.6. Worked like a charm. Wiped gramps and did the same thing with master and now I get Resources not found. Reinstalled 5.1.6 and then copied over with master after doing build. Again starts up in Arabic. Closes I can figure is either its me or there is a problem with the locale files as using gramp -v shows language as AR.AA. I’ll work on it again tomorrow. ---
**Author:** ![ennoborg](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/gramps.discourse.group/ennoborg/32/4659_2.png) [@ennoborg](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/ennoborg)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2023, 9:14pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/gramps-master-starts-in-arabic/3843/8 "2023-08-14T21:14:51Z")
> [@moorob](#): > > en\_US.UTF-8 on linux, gramps -v shows Ar.AA In what variable is that in your Linux? LANG? Or LC\_TIME? ---
**Author:** ![moorob](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/gramps.discourse.group/moorob/32/586_2.png) [@moorob](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/moorob)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2023, 9:38pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/gramps-master-starts-in-arabic/3843/9 "2023-08-14T21:38:22Z")
Fixed itself after a dozen tries. ---
**Author:** ![prculley](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/gramps.discourse.group/prculley/32/41_2.png) [@prculley](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/prculley)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2023, 5:14pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/gramps-master-starts-in-arabic/3843/10 "2023-08-15T17:14:24Z")
[Fix glocale problems on Windows by prculley · Pull Request #1516 · gramps-project/gramps · GitHub](https://github.com/gramps-project/gramps/pull/1516) may fix this. ---
**Author:** ![GaryGriffin](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/gramps.discourse.group/garygriffin/32/6525_2.png) [@GaryGriffin](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/GaryGriffin)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2023, 5:03am UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/gramps-master-starts-in-arabic/3843/11 "2023-08-15T05:03:11Z")
MacOS running Mojave. This is an old iMac (21.5-inch, Late 2013). I downloaded the Intel beta and when it starts it is in Arabic. When I run from command line, it also starts in Arabic. It had the following log info: > مترجم القرابات العائلية غير متوفر للعة ‘ar’. يتم استعمال ‘الانكليزية’ بدلاً عنه. > > 2023-08-14 19:27:33.727: WARNING: relationship.py: line 2621: مترجم القرابات العائلية غير متوفر للعة ‘ar’. يتم استعمال ‘الانكليزية’ بدلاً عنه. The relevant env variables in the terminal window are: LANG=en\_US.UTF-8 The following files were created in the gramps52 folder (it did not exist before running) - gramps.ini - Relationships\_relview.ini - plugins (directory which is empty) ---
**Author:** ![emyoulation](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/gramps.discourse.group/emyoulation/32/67_2.png) [@emyoulation](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/emyoulation)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2023, 6:13am UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/gramps-master-starts-in-arabic/3843/12 "2023-08-15T06:13:47Z")
There’s some discussion of the beta starting in Arabic on some systems. The discussion on Language detection became pretty active today. A bit later in the conversation John IDs some long-standing language detection issues. > > > @Nick-Hall > \> @jralls When you are looking at the code, perhaps you could check… why Gramps may start in Arabic instead of US English. > We have a user reporting this on Manjaro and with LANG set to en\_US.UTF-8. > > They reported > \> en\_US.UTF-8 on linux, gramps -v shows Ar.AA. > > Maybe, but it didn't report LANG set to Ar.AA, that's not a valid locale. If I run > \`\`\` > LANGUAGE="ar:aa:en" ./Gramps.py -v > \`\`\` > gramps -v reports > \`\`\` > Environment settings: > \--------------------- > LANG : ar\_AA.UTF-8 > LANGUAGE : ar:en > \`\`\` > Maybe that's what he meant. > > There is no \`AA\` country code. \`aa\` is the language code for \[Afar\](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afar\_language). I did install the \`ar\_SA.UTF8\` locale for testing this, and if LANGUAGE is to override LANG (and ISTR deciding to do that 10 or so years ago when I rewrote the locale code so that translations and formats would be consistent) it should be selecting a legit locale from what's available. Making one up won't work and will cause things affected by locale--number and date formats--to fall back to "C". Translations are set correctly and will result in the Gramps GUI being mostly in Arabic. Note that in my environment \`LANG\` and all the \`LC\_FOO\` variables are set to \`en\_US.UTF8\`, just as the user's are. > > Nobody asked the user about the value of \`$LANGUAGE\`. ---
**Author:** ![emyoulation](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/gramps.discourse.group/emyoulation/32/67_2.png) [@emyoulation](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/emyoulation)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2023, 12:42pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/gramps-master-starts-in-arabic/3843/13 "2023-08-15T12:42:53Z")
> > > \> Another 5.2 beta user reports Arabic on macOS: an iMac running Mojave > > My gu…ess is, that you see this when Gramps defaults to the 1st entry (index 0) in the internal language table, which starts with ar. I saw it happen when I messed with the code that processes the LC\_TIME environment variable in Windows. ---
**Author:** ![GaryGriffin](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/gramps.discourse.group/garygriffin/32/6525_2.png) [@GaryGriffin](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/GaryGriffin)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2023, 5:03pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/gramps-master-starts-in-arabic/3843/14 "2023-08-15T17:03:11Z")
More info on beta MacOS failure: 1. I suspect there is no BSDDB support since it is not found (see Databases) 2. Starts in Arabic Running printenv (culled for relevance) yields: > PWD=/Users/gary/Desktop/GrampsIntelBeta.app/Contents/MacOS > LANG=en\_US.UTF-8 Running beta gramps -v yields: > ## Gramps Settings: > > gramps : 5.2.0-beta1 > o.s. : darwin > kernel : 18.7.0 > > ## Required: > > Python : 3.11.4 > Gtk++ : 3.24.38 > pygobject : 3.44.1 > Cairo : 1.17.8 > pycairo : 1.24.0 > Pango : 1.50.14 > PangoCairo: 1.0 > > ## Recommended: > > osmgpsmap : 1.0 > Graphviz : 8.0. > Ghostscr. : 9.21 > ICU : 3.11.4 > PyICU : 2.7.2 > > ## Optional: > > Gspell : not found > RCS : not found > PILLOW : 8.2.0 > GExiv2 : 0.10 > Exiv2 lib. : not found because exiv2 is not installed > geocodeglib: 1.0 > > ## Environment settings: > > LANG : ar\_AA.UTF-8 > LANGUAGE : ar:bg:ca:cs:da:de:de\_AT:el:en > GRAMPSI18N: /Users/gary/Desktop/GrampsIntelBeta.app/Contents/Resources/share/locale > GRAMPSHOME: not set > GRAMPSDIR : /Users/gary/Desktop/GrampsIntelBeta.app/Contents/Resources/lib/python3.1/site-packages/gramps > PYTHONPATH: > /Users/gary/Desktop/GrampsIntelBeta.app/Contents/Resources/lib/python3.11/site-packages/gramps > /Users/gary/Desktop/GrampsIntelBeta.app/Contents/Resources/lib/python3.11 > /Users/gary/Desktop/GrampsIntelBeta.app/Contents/Resources/lib/python3.11/lib-dynload > /Users/gary/Desktop/GrampsIntelBeta.app/Contents/Resources/lib/python3.11/site-packages > > ## System PATH env variable: > > ``` > /Users/gary/Desktop/GrampsIntelBeta.app/Contents/MacOS > usr/local/mysql/bin > /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.5/bin > /usr/local/bin > /usr/bin > /bin > /usr/sbin > /sbin > /Library/TeX/texbin > /Users/gary/.local/bin > /Users/gary/bin > /Applications/GIMP-2.10.app/Contents/MacOS > > ``` > > ## Databases: > > bsddb : > version : not found > db version : not found > location : not found > sqlite3 : > version : 3.24.0 > py version : 2.6.0 ---
**Author:** ![prculley](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/gramps.discourse.group/prculley/32/41_2.png) [@prculley](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/prculley)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2023, 5:15pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/gramps-master-starts-in-arabic/3843/15 "2023-08-15T17:15:56Z")
[Fix glocale problems on Windows by prculley · Pull Request #1516 · gramps-project/gramps · GitHub](https://github.com/gramps-project/gramps/pull/1516) may fix this. Found it on Windows but seems to apply to everything. ---
**Author:** ![GaryGriffin](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/gramps.discourse.group/garygriffin/32/6525_2.png) [@GaryGriffin](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/GaryGriffin)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2023, 6:21pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/gramps-master-starts-in-arabic/3843/16 "2023-08-16T18:21:50Z")
Applied the patch for grampslocale.py and it fixes the Mac version. ---
**Author:** ![emyoulation](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/gramps.discourse.group/emyoulation/32/67_2.png) [@emyoulation](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/emyoulation)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2023, 11:37pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/gramps-master-starts-in-arabic/3843/17 "2023-08-28T23:37:28Z")
Was the patch applied to beta2? A Gramps for Genealogists Facebook group member just tried the Mac beta2 and an Arabic problem persisted in the Dashboard Gramplet titles for an OS in Italian install. > [Daniele Cordella](https://www.facebook.com/groups/370692133138445/user/1502352714/? __cft__ %5B0%5D=AZU-jmi76FcwRzBu_7s_vOh_cXUtlJFLGjZk8l60lHbyFGYqcdAUqjPVobVqL77t9sz8KJpx7trvbXGC_KJdyyR6ncq8IbjA8rV9FHCrTGipALeiBOykts31632GG6BMozf4hvDPeEgi9mSReJKxxYbp7_g58uSQtZJbr_8nOYDaEiyDCwepKga8quEJpkbyFlk& __tn__ =R%5D-R) > > [Brian McCullough](https://www.facebook.com/groups/370692133138445/user/100011081207613/? __cft__ %5B0%5D=AZU-jmi76FcwRzBu_7s_vOh_cXUtlJFLGjZk8l60lHbyFGYqcdAUqjPVobVqL77t9sz8KJpx7trvbXGC_KJdyyR6ncq8IbjA8rV9FHCrTGipALeiBOykts31632GG6BMozf4hvDPeEgi9mSReJKxxYbp7_g58uSQtZJbr_8nOYDaEiyDCwepKga8quEJpkbyFlk& __tn__ =R%5D-R): in gramps 5.2 beta2 some lang files are not correctly found. > > I use gramps in italian but attached is the page I see. > > IMHO the text is in arabic, so in the first found lang (starting with ‘A’). This sounds like italian lang file is not found in some cases. > ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/gramps/original/2X/3/31e783b48ffaf392672a3592bf0ec8486dde63b6.png) ---
**Author:** ![Nick-Hall](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/gramps.discourse.group/nick-hall/32/95_2.png) [@Nick-Hall](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/Nick-Hall)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2023, 11:45pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/gramps-master-starts-in-arabic/3843/18 "2023-08-28T23:45:04Z")
> [@emyoulation](#): > > Was the patch applied to beta2? Yes. It was fixed in 5.2.0-beta2. Once a gramplet title has been created it won’t automatically change though. ---
**Author:** ![emyoulation](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/gramps.discourse.group/emyoulation/32/67_2.png) [@emyoulation](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/emyoulation)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2023, 11:50pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/gramps-master-starts-in-arabic/3843/19 "2023-08-28T23:50:24Z")
I’ll have to ask if that occurred for them with 5.1.6 version. They did not mention having tried the beta1. But will have to confirm that. > **Daniele Cordella** Did that happen for you in 5.1.6 too? Or in Beta1 maybe? > > Dashboard gramplets are unique in that you can Relabel them. But once a name is established, it is locked in. And there is no method for changing the language when re-editing the label. > > Could you try closing/removing all gramplets displayed in the Dashboard view, close Gramps, re-open and add the Gramplets back to the Dashboard. ---
**Author:** ![emyoulation](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/gramps.discourse.group/emyoulation/32/67_2.png) [@emyoulation](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/emyoulation)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2023, 7:43pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/gramps-master-starts-in-arabic/3843/20 "2023-08-30T19:43:17Z")
[Daniele Cordella](https://www.facebook.com/groups/370692133138445/user/1502352714/? __cft__ %5B0%5D=AZVWrSZi7EAvLdAYPm0jKSqugUHlNTsOqYmmrQ1kR1P-IqQZyh4CTxue37328cKV8xm6PBT1f97A75jgXjVBTyMhQsrYdZict2aHj3Z5ES-ihVKTAogZyWbYf_gOEsnm_SfA1RibUicE7nvxoUicxNFy& __tn__ =R%5D-R) replies: > **Brian McCullough** > Did that happen for you in 5.1.6 too? No, 100% no. > **Brian McCullough** > Or in Beta1 maybe? Beta1 is unusable. I get ALL in arabic. > **Brian McCullough** > Dashboard gramplets are unique in that you can Relabel them. But once a name is established, it is locked in. And there is no method for changing the language when re-editing the label. > > Could you try closing/removing all gramplets displayed in the Dashboard view, close Gramps, re-open and add the Gramplets back to the Dashboard. Dropping gramplets, closing beta2, running beta2 again and adding gramplets once again the names are correctly displayed in italian. [Next page](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/gramps-master-starts-in-arabic/3843.md?page=2)