# Geography "all known places for family" crash

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**Created:** [June 29, 2021, 4:20pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/geography-all-known-places-for-family-crash/1591 "2021-06-29T16:20:05Z")\
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**Post date:** [June 29, 2021, 4:20pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/geography-all-known-places-for-family-crash/1591/1 "2021-06-29T16:20:06Z")

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Gramps 5.1.3, Lubuntu 20.04.2 LTS

In the last DAY I fell across a strange bug/crash. Geography “all known places for one family” fails with a stack trace. I’ve tried it for 3 different databases, and several families. It used to work.

My install is from source (I maintain a couple of small changes), and the code hasn’t changed since Feb 3 (most recent date stamp).

I suspect a linux (python) update has changed things under my feet.

Before I go “crazy” with detailed fault chasing, error reporting - is this a known “oh, that old thing” fault?

BugBear

```auto

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.8/dist-packages/gramps/gui/viewmanager.py", line 817, in __create_page
    page_display = page.get_display()
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.8/dist-packages/gramps/gui/views/pageview.py", line 421, in get_display
    self.top = self.build_interface()
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.8/dist-packages/gramps/gui/views/pageview.py", line 163, in build_interface
    self.widget = self.build_widget()
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.8/dist-packages/gramps/plugins/lib/maps/osmgps.py", line 156, in build_widget
    self.change_map(None, config.get("geography.map_service"))
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.8/dist-packages/gramps/plugins/lib/maps/osmgps.py", line 217, in change_map
    self.goto_handle(handle=None)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.8/dist-packages/gramps/plugins/view/geofamily.py", line 219, in goto_handle
    self.build_tree()
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.8/dist-packages/gramps/plugins/view/geofamily.py", line 232, in build_tree
    self._createmap(self.uistate.get_active('Person'))
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.8/dist-packages/gramps/plugins/view/geofamily.py", line 460, in _createmap
    self._createmap_for_one_family(family)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.8/dist-packages/gramps/plugins/view/geofamily.py", line 373, in _createmap_for_one_family
    person = dbstate.db.get_person_from_handle(
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.8/dist-packages/gramps/gen/db/generic.py", line 1282, in get_person_from_handle
    return self._get_from_handle(PERSON_KEY, Person, handle)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.8/dist-packages/gramps/gen/db/generic.py", line 1263, in _get_from_handle
    raise HandleError('Handle is None')
gramps.gen.errors.HandleError: Handle is None

```

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**Post date:** [July 2, 2021, 4:49pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/geography-all-known-places-for-family-crash/1591/2 "2021-07-02T16:49:39Z")

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Perhaps it’s the same as bug report [#12237](https://gramps-project.org/bugs/view.php?id=12237)

> [@Geography view (all known places for a family) bug](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/geography-view-all-known-places-for-a-family-bug/1300):
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> Gramps version : 5.1-3 Operating System : Win10 Trying to view all known places for a family map I got this: and this in console: Is it a known bug? No window is displayed to report the error.

Will be solved in 5.1.4 with PR [#1188](https://github.com/gramps-project/gramps/pull/1188)

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**Post date:** [August 1, 2021, 4:50pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/geography-all-known-places-for-family-crash/1591/3 "2021-08-01T16:50:13Z")

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