# Example.gramps and 1.7.2 grampsxml.dtd

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On future Gramps 6.0, it seems that there is a minor schema update/upgrade around eventref and citationref.

```python
-<!DOCTYPE database PUBLIC "-//GRAMPS//DTD GRAMPS XML V1.7.1//EN"
                "http://gramps-project.org/xml/1.7.1/grampsxml.dtd"
+<!DOCTYPE database PUBLIC "-//GRAMPS//DTD GRAMPS XML V1.7.2//EN"
                "http://gramps-project.org/xml/1.7.2/grampsxml.dtd"

-<!ELEMENT eventref (attribute*, noteref*)>
+<!ELEMENT eventref (attribute*, noteref*, citationref*)>

```

Maybe ‘example.gramps’ should also set ‘1.7.2’ instead of ‘1.7.1’ into its header?

```python
"http://gramps-project.org/xml/1.7.1/grampsxml.dtd">
<database xmlns="http://gramps-project.org/xml/1.7.1/">
...
      <eventref hlink="_a5af0ecb107303354a0" role="Primary">
        <attribute type="Father Age" value="28">
          <citationref hlink="_c140d7c7bdc1fedb030"/>
        </attribute>
 -> <citationref hlink="_c140d5e5dbf300411bf"/>
...

```

A current mixup between 1.7.1 and 1.7.2 versions ?

Jérôme

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Maybe version should be also set into ‘libgrampsxml.py’ ?

> <https://github.com/gramps-project/gramps/blob/master/gramps/plugins/lib/libgrampsxml.py>

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For info, I get stuck [by trying to update an addon](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/is-your-experimental-xml-viewer-gramplet-from-2011-2016-still-available/4274). So, either publish 1.7.2 version on gramps hosting

> **[Index of /xml](https://gramps-project.org/xml/)**

or remove [the addition (one line) on example.gramps for Gramps 6.0](https://github.com/gramps-project/gramps/commit/6b52bccea9effb1e7ea64a32595be18cc4a6c379).

This is cosmetic, as Gramps does not really check (validation) dtd, rng (or xsd). So, currently, only a maintenance issue around an experimental addon with a 3rd-party lib (lxml). Anyway, it is just for having something up-to-date on xml documentation and file format.

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> [@romjerome](#):
>
> So, either publish 1.7.2 version on gramps hosting

I’ll ask Sam to publish the v1.7.2 schema.

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Thank you. It was not very important and I was able to skip the warning message by making tests offline.

For information, I was able to run the validations check (dtd, rng, xsd).  
Just get a cryptic “error : Unknown IO error” from console. This could be related to some old methods used into the gramplet.

Also, one line generating an error, has been commented:

```python
File ".gramps/gramps52/plugins/lxml/lxmlGramplet.py", line 360, in ParseXML
    self.text.set_text(_('Parsing file...'))
AttributeError: 'list' object has no attribute 'set_text'

```

I suppose that I should use something like self.text[0] somewhere into the gramplet, but I do not know why there is now an AttributeError. Anyway, it was just for displaying a message, no one will see it as the gramplet will quickly display an updated text.

Jérôme

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Maybe it is not new… but I cannot import my custom .gramps with data set, anymore !

It is related to this section into ‘importxml.py’:

```python
def inaugurate_id(self, id_, key, prim_obj):
        """
        Equivalent of inaugurate but for old style XML.
        """
        if id_ is None:
            raise GrampsImportError(
                _("The Gramps Xml you are trying to " "import is malformed."),
                _("Attributes that link the data " "together are missing."),
            )

```

The data set (surnames, places and sources) was filed into a “raw-flat” .gramps file:

```python
<database xmlns="http://gramps-project.org/xml/1.7.2/">
  <people>
    <person>
      <name>
        <surname>Abbott</surname>
      </name>
    </person>
    <person>
      <name>
        <surname>Abot</surname>
      </name>
    </person>
    <person>
      <name>
        <surname>&#37428;&#26408;</surname>
      </name>
    </person>
  </people>
  <places>
    <placeobj>
      <pname value="AK"/>
    </placeobj>
    <placeobj>
      <pname value="AL"/>
    </placeobj>
    <placeobj>
      <pname value="&#931;&#953;&#940;&#964;&#953;&#963;&#964;&#945;"/>
    </placeobj>
  </places>
  <sources>
    <source>
      <stitle>All possible citations</stitle>
    </source>
    <source>
      <stitle>Baptize registry 1850 - 1867 Great Falls Church</stitle>
    </source>
    <source>
      <stitle>Import from test2.ged</stitle>
    </source>
    <source>
      <stitle>World of the Wierd</stitle>
    </source>
  </sources>
</database>
 (part, section 'example.gramps' lite)

```

It seems that we need to assign a random id attribute (id\_) on the modified .gramps file. Not really a problem because I made few custom importations by this way, in the past.

Jérôme

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> [@romjerome](#):
>
> It seems that we need to assign a random id attribute (id\_) on the modified .gramps file.

It still works, but only for few primary objects.  
e.g., for places or people

```python
<database xmlns="http://gramps-project.org/xml/1.7.2/">
   <people>
    <person id="">
      <name>
        <surname>Abbott</surname>
      </name>
    </person>
  </people>
  <places>
    <placeobj id="">
      <pname value="AK"/>
    </placeobj>
 </places>
 <sources>
   <source id="">
    <stitle>Import from test2.ged</stitle>
   </source>
  </sources>
</database>

```

So, one could import an external flat database, at a glance. In this case, a place database or a list of surnames, but could be census, individuals, events, sources, notes, etc.

About internal handles, it makes sense to keep them for an update or comparison. So, I do not want (or try to limit) any assignation on handle for this test.

Anyway, I wonder if a gramps xml reader viewer/reader could be useful? Maybe via a web app or a local one. I saw that streamlit provides a complete ecosystem for that, with few lines of code. Why not a transformer ? [CSV Import or Text Import addon are providing something like this](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/csv-template-for-text-import/5277/5).

With gramps xml file format we have some validation tools. So, either play with the flexibility of gramps or let the control and check of data to xml file format ([markups, tags, elements and attributes](https://raw.githubusercontent.com/gramps-project/addons-source/refs/heads/master/lxml/xpaths_4_2_x.txt)). This experimental list needs a minor update for Gramps 6.0 (maybe 5.2), but it gives a quick overview of a possible hierarchical “template” for looking at the content of our gramps xml files.

Nick,

> [@romjerome](#):
>
> Maybe version should be also set into ‘libgrampsxml.py’ ?

I was no more able to provide a Pull Request (_github account and n check issues_).

```python
-GRAMPS_XML_VERSION_TUPLE = (1, 7, 1) # version for Gramps 4.2
+GRAMPS_XML_VERSION_TUPLE = (1, 7, 2) # version for Gramps 6.0

```

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> [@romjerome](#):
>
> This experimental list needs a minor update for Gramps 6.0 (maybe 5.2)

Around People and Families because it is related to Eventref.

```python
/database/people/person[0]/eventref[0]/noteref[0]
/database/people/person[0]/eventref[0]/noteref[0]/@hlink
+/database/people/person[0]/eventref[0]/citationref[0]
+/database/people/person[0]/eventref[0]/citationref[0]/@hlink
..

```

As ‘example.gramps’ was used for generating the ‘grampsxml.xsd’ file, any missing location on the sample, was also missing into the list.

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> [@romjerome](#):
>
> So, one could import an external flat database, at a glance. In this case, a place database or a list of surnames, but could be census, individuals, events, sources, notes, etc.

`$ sudo io.elementary.code /usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/gramps/plugins/importer/importxml.py `  
_or whatever code editor or IDE_

A minor change :

```python
 def inaugurate_id(self, id_, key, prim_obj):
        """
        Equivalent of inaugurate but for old style XML.
        """
- if id_ is None:
+ if id_ is None and key !=2:

```

Should let you import source titles too. I suppose that there is a relation with citation object (mapping list ?). So, need more investigations for something “clever” and proper (_large project for an import at a glance_).  
Jérôme

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> [@romjerome](#):
>
> A minor change :

Do you want to make a PR for that?

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I am still looking if this could be a good improvement… I suppose that it might be a very quick (and safe ?) solution on large import for sources (with or without citations), also for dataset (e.g., census).

KEY=2 will only match source object, but I do not understand this custom behavior. I saw the comment about the legacy model (prior to gramps 5.0), but neither sourceref nor source creation seem to call inaugurate\_id() in this case (id\_== None). Need to look at citation and inaugurate(). I suppose that I should launch a gramps session with traceback.

```python

```

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Doug,

> [@dsblank](#):
>
> Do you want to make a PR for that?

The improvement might be on:

```python
 def start_source(self, attrs):
        """
        Add a source object to db if it doesn't exist yet and assign
        id, privacy and changetime.
        """
        self.update(self.p.CurrentLineNumber)
        self.source = Source()
        if "handle" in attrs:
            orig_handle = attrs["handle"].replace("_", "")
            is_merge_candidate = (
                self.replace_import_handle and self.db.has_source_handle(orig_handle)
            )
            self.inaugurate(orig_handle, "source", self.source)
            gramps_id = self.legalize_id(
                attrs.get("id"),
                SOURCE_KEY,
                self.sidswap,
                self.db.sid2user_format,
                self.db.find_next_source_gramps_id,
                self.db.has_source_gramps_id,
            )
            self.source.set_gramps_id(gramps_id)
            if is_merge_candidate:
                orig_source = self.db.get_source_from_handle(orig_handle)
                self.info.add("merge-candidate", SOURCE_KEY, orig_source, self.source)
        else: # old style XML
            self.inaugurate_id(attrs.get("id"), SOURCE_KEY, self.source)
        self.source.private = bool(attrs.get("priv"))
        self.source.change = int(attrs.get("change", self.change))
        self.info.add("new-object", SOURCE_KEY, self.source)
        if self.default_tag:
            self.source.add_tag(self.default_tag.handle)
        return self.source

```

a simple check (about None Type) could be a proper solution.

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> [@romjerome](#):
>
> I was no more able to provide a Pull Request (_github account and n check issues_).
> 
> ```python
> -GRAMPS_XML_VERSION_TUPLE = (1, 7, 1) # version for Gramps 4.2
> +GRAMPS_XML_VERSION_TUPLE = (1, 7, 2) # version for Gramps 6.0
> 
> ```

Ah, yes, sorry, maybe a pull request for this one (6.0 branch)?

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> [@romjerome](#):
>
> I do not understand this custom behavior.

I still do not fully understand this custom behavior, but I know where it occurs:

```python
if "handle" in attrs:
   ...
else: # old style XML
    self.inaugurate_id(attrs.get("id"), SOURCE_KEY, self.source)

```

```python
 File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/gramps/gui/dbloader.py", line 531, in do_import
    dbstate=self.dbstate,
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/gramps/plugins/importer/importxml.py", line 204, in importData
    info = parser.parse(xml_file, line_cnt, person_cnt)
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/gramps/plugins/importer/importxml.py", line 1063, in parse
    self.p.ParseFile(ifile)
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/gramps/plugins/importer/importxml.py", line 3354, in startElement
    f(attrs)
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/gramps/plugins/importer/importxml.py", line 2336, in start_source

```

and maybe why:

```python
2025-03-15 16:56:03.887: ERROR: dbloader.py: line 548: Failed to import database.
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/gramps/gui/dbloader.py", line 531, in do_import
    dbstate=self.dbstate,
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/gramps/plugins/importer/importxml.py", line 204, in importData
    info = parser.parse(xml_file, line_cnt, person_cnt)
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/gramps/plugins/importer/importxml.py", line 1063, in parse
    self.p.ParseFile(ifile)
  File "../Modules/pyexpat.c", line 473, in EndElement
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/gramps/plugins/importer/importxml.py", line 3360, in endElement
    self.func("".join(self.tlist))
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/gramps/plugins/importer/importxml.py", line 3092, in stop_source
    self.db.commit_source(self.source, self.trans, self.source.get_change_time())
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/gramps/gen/db/generic.py", line 2023, in commit_source
    self._commit_base(source, SOURCE_KEY, trans, change_time)
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/gramps/plugins/db/dbapi/dbapi.py", line 661, in _commit_base
    self.dbapi.execute(sql, [obj.handle, pickle.dumps(obj.serialize())])
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/gramps/plugins/db/dbapi/sqlite.py", line 136, in execute
    self.__cursor.execute(*args, **kwargs)
sqlite3.IntegrityError: NOT NULL constraint failed: source.handle

```

but it should not be specific (custom error) to source object. All primary objects have the same code. So, I should get (gramps 5.2.x, not tested on gramps 6.0 beta) the same limitations on place and people?

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> [@romjerome](#):
>
> I am still looking if this could be a good improvement… I suppose that it might be a very quick (and safe ?) solution on large import for sources (with or without citations), also for dataset (e.g., census).

Attached the result, after two importations of the same ‘raw-flat’ testcase database:

```python
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE database PUBLIC "-//Gramps//DTD Gramps XML 1.7.1//EN"
"http://gramps-project.org/xml/1.7.1/grampsxml.dtd">
<database xmlns="http://gramps-project.org/xml/1.7.1/">
  <header>
    <created date="2025-03-15" version="5.2.2"/>
    <researcher>
    </researcher>
  </header>
  <people>
    <person handle="_fd8049879a24729d06caa85a051" change="1742045785" id="1">
      <gender>U</gender>
      <name type="Birth Name">
        <surname>Abbott</surname>
      </name>
    </person>
    <person handle="_fd8049879b0aa0316b5e2b75f7" change="1742045785" id="2">
      <gender>U</gender>
      <name type="Birth Name">
        <surname>Abot</surname>
      </name>
    </person>
    <person handle="_fd8049879b85eaad390c549760" change="1742045785" id="3">
      <gender>U</gender>
      <name type="Birth Name">
        <surname>鈴木</surname>
      </name>
    </person>
    <person handle="_fd805ed2f88652aaf79bb820561" change="1742045785" id="I0002">
      <gender>U</gender>
      <name type="Birth Name">
        <surname>Abbott</surname>
      </name>
    </person>
    <person handle="_fd805ed2f9374bdaefeebfb65c" change="1742045785" id="I0003">
      <gender>U</gender>
      <name type="Birth Name">
        <surname>Abot</surname>
      </name>
    </person>
    <person handle="_fd805ed2f9962f2abb70236037a" change="1742045785" id="I0004">
      <gender>U</gender>
      <name type="Birth Name">
        <surname>鈴木</surname>
      </name>
    </person>
  </people>
  <sources>
    <source handle="_fd8049879d47c75ff5f5a6c13ed" change="1742045785" id="S0000">
      <stitle>All possible citations</stitle>
    </source>
    <source handle="_fd8049879da36d14d969fdcecc7" change="1742045785" id="8">
      <stitle>Baptize registry 1850 - 1867 Great Falls Church</stitle>
    </source>
    <source handle="_fd8049879dd1675d72f9a3e571d" change="1742045785" id="9">
      <stitle>Import from test2.ged</stitle>
    </source>
    <source handle="_fd8049879e0ad12acea404229b" change="1742045785" id="10">
      <stitle>World of the Wierd</stitle>
    </source>
    <source handle="_fd805ed2fae736f8a24c0dc5b40" change="1742045785" id="S0001">
      <stitle>All possible citations</stitle>
    </source>
    <source handle="_fd805ed2fb31e3304c6aa7479d" change="1742045785" id="S0002">
      <stitle>Baptize registry 1850 - 1867 Great Falls Church</stitle>
    </source>
    <source handle="_fd805ed2fb67ae9ca701e89466e" change="1742045785" id="S0003">
      <stitle>Import from test2.ged</stitle>
    </source>
    <source handle="_fd805ed2fb91899e8a8b3679a8d" change="1742045785" id="S0004">
      <stitle>World of the Wierd</stitle>
    </source>
  </sources>
  <places>
    <placeobj handle="_fd8049879c067b3f23e914d8c84" change="1742045785" id="4" type="Unknown">
      <pname value="AK"/>
    </placeobj>
    <placeobj handle="_fd8049879c950045ff24e757295" change="1742045785" id="5" type="Unknown">
      <pname value="AL"/>
    </placeobj>
    <placeobj handle="_fd8049879cf4096aca899fe80e3" change="1742045785" id="6" type="Unknown">
      <pname value="Σιάτιστα"/>
    </placeobj>
    <placeobj handle="_fd805ed2fa02eec9d1ba677af23" change="1742045785" id="P0002" type="Unknown">
      <pname value="AK"/>
    </placeobj>
    <placeobj handle="_fd805ed2fa6498b1bf127506bd2" change="1742045785" id="P0003" type="Unknown">
      <pname value="AL"/>
    </placeobj>
    <placeobj handle="_fd805ed2faa3de2f0af7e2f157f" change="1742045785" id="P0004" type="Unknown">
      <pname value="Σιάτιστα"/>
    </placeobj>
  </places>
</database>

```

So, everything sounds good. Without the extra-specific limitation (check) for old XML style (and id) on Source object, we could “easily” import 1 000 000 entries. Maybe just need to assign something large for id range ([gramps preferences](https://www.gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php/Gramps_Glossary#preferences)) and check db performances before?  
Jérôme.

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Doug,

> [@dsblank](#):
>
> Do you want to make a PR for that?

There is maybe a bug (at least on 5.2.x), because this custom behavior on Source object will be only on 2 sources (of 4 in total!). Always the same group:

```python
<stitle>Baptize registry 1850 - 1867 Great Falls Church</stitle>
<stitle>Import from test2.ged</stitle>

```

A length issue?A buffer issue? string vs byte ? an id type/format ? I do not know. Anyway, as surnames and place names are only short samples, I suppose I should, at least, also test them with large names.

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> [@romjerome](#):
>
> ```python
> -GRAMPS_XML_VERSION_TUPLE = (1, 7, 1) # version for Gramps 4.2
> +GRAMPS_XML_VERSION_TUPLE = (1, 7, 2) # version for Gramps 6.0
> 
> ```

Pull Request [#2021](https://github.com/gramps-project/gramps/pull/2021).

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> [@Nick-Hall](#):
>
> I’ll ask Sam to publish the v1.7.2 schema.

[Done](https://gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php/.dtd_and_.rng)

Sorry for the delay, looks like I missed it last time!

Does not look like Gramps 6.0 updates the schema as it still shows 1.7.2.

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> [@gramps-project](#):
>
> Sorry for the delay, looks like I missed it last time!

Thank you, Sam!

No problem, no urgency. It seems that no Gramps XML importation will be blocked for a missing url.

Also, as there is no final Gramps 6.0.0 release yet, maybe I was the only one to ping [https://gramps-project.org/xml/1.7.2/grampsxml.dtd](https://gramps-project.org/xml/1.7.2/grampsxml.dtd) on last days! Just a question, can we know how many Gramps XML importation are done by monitoring this file or urls?

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> [@romjerome](#):
>
> Maybe ‘example.gramps’ should also set ‘1.7.2’ instead of ‘1.7.1’ into its header?

Well, maybe I should revert the commit for ‘example.gramps’ update (#PR2021)? I thought it was few lines…

```diff
--- example.gramps	2025-03-17 08:51:55.353306928 +0100
+++ example.gramps	2025-03-16 15:51:07.119161072 +0100
@@ -1,9 +1,9 @@
 <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
-<!DOCTYPE database PUBLIC "-//Gramps//DTD Gramps XML 1.7.1//EN"
-"http://gramps-project.org/xml/1.7.1/grampsxml.dtd">
-<database xmlns="http://gramps-project.org/xml/1.7.1/">
+<!DOCTYPE database PUBLIC "-//Gramps//DTD Gramps XML 1.7.2//EN"
+"http://gramps-project.org/xml/1.7.2/grampsxml.dtd">
+<database xmlns="http://gramps-project.org/xml/1.7.2/">
   <header>
- <created date="2025-01-27" version="5.1.6"/>
+ <created date="2025-03-16" version="6.0.0"/>
     <researcher>
       <resname>Alex Roitman,,,</resname>
     </researcher>

```

… but done via the Github web interface… So:  
_66,083 additions, 66,083 deletions not shown because the diff is too large. Please use a local Git client to view these changes._ 😟

I also noted that ‘example.gramps’ missed a value on the optional code field for the Place object. Not a crucial data (does Gramps look at attributes order on file format?), but it raised (also on 52 branch) an error on the attributes sequences (ordering)! I tested DTD, rng and xsd schemas, so validations were stricts… Structure, content, or unique tags seem to pass tests. Maybe just a minor issue pending around pseudo-log (it is what I used for the metadata section into Gramps XML) on the header, which could be related to my testing gramps version.

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