# Citations (Scotland) - How would you

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**Category:** Genealogy\
**Created:** [July 17, 2026, 10:04am UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/citations-scotland-how-would-you/9730 "2026-07-17T10:04:28Z")\
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Unsure if this is the correct Section, so admin please move if required.

Starting out with Geneology, and I understand the Concept of  
Repo, Source, Citation.

What I am having trouble with the way Citations should be written.

as an Example for a Scottish Birth, Marriage or Death.

Source - Statutory registers of Birth (Scotland)  
Author - Registrat general for Scotland

Citation  
Date - XXXX-XX-XX  
Volume/Page: (Year) District of Dundee, Ref: 185/2

now if I need to say reference a parent onto this in the future, Id have to remember the above, no?

Is it best practice to

Volume/Page: (Year) District of Dundee, Ref: 185/2 - Name of Person its related too  
or just  
Volume/Page: (Year) District of Dundee, Ref: 185/2

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**Post date:** [July 17, 2026, 10:58am UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/citations-scotland-how-would-you/9730/2 "2026-07-17T10:58:33Z")

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> [@pr0xibus](#):
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> or just  
> Volume/Page: (Year) District of Dundee, Ref: 185/2

I do not see the need to add the person’s name if the citation can be properly identified without it. After all, the citation is attached to the person’s event.

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**Post date:** [July 17, 2026, 11:42am UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/citations-scotland-how-would-you/9730/3 "2026-07-17T11:42:30Z")

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For me it is not adding the parent to the Citation but to the Event  
which automatically references the same Citation  
phil

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**Post date:** [July 17, 2026, 11:52am UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/citations-scotland-how-would-you/9730/4 "2026-07-17T11:52:22Z")

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Cheers for the replies folks.

At the moment, If say birth cert has a proper citation without a name at the end, then when going through the Parents, or witness, its trying to remember which citation it was in the first place. Currently in the middle of sorting through them at the moment and correcting them

@DaveSch Just out of curiosity, the Scan of the certificate itself, is that attached to the Citation, or Person? Curently I have it attached to the Citation

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**Post date:** [July 17, 2026, 12:14pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/citations-scotland-how-would-you/9730/5 "2026-07-17T12:14:27Z")

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> [@pr0xibus](#):
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> Just out of curiosity, the Scan of the certificate itself, is that attached to the Citation, or Person? Curently I have it attached to the Citation

I too attach it to the Citation.

I use the NarrWeb to send cousins information on their branch of the tree. The NarrWeb shows images wherever placed in the database. Not every report does this and limits images to the person or to the event and not citations.

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**Post date:** [July 17, 2026, 12:26pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/citations-scotland-how-would-you/9730/6 "2026-07-17T12:26:41Z")

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If I have a birth cert I use Forms to enter the data and the image is  
with both, Citation (from the Form) and Event(manually added)  
If I only have a Registration from an index I do not create a Citation  
just include details in a Note  
phil

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**Post date:** [July 18, 2026, 10:22pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/citations-scotland-how-would-you/9730/7 "2026-07-18T22:22:34Z")

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I’m new to Gramps and will use this thread rather than start a new one and my question is very aligned. I live in Italy and many of the certificates (birth, death, etc.) come from the archives of the comunes (equivalent to the municipality). You ask for a certificate and it given to you.

So the way I’m seeing this is:

a) The archive of the local comune is the repository.

b) The certificate is the source (and I attach the scan of the certificate to the source)

c) The citation is a reference to the source which has the repository already linked.

Now, as the source is a certificate, I name it like “Birth certificate - Name Surname”. Do you see any weaknesses in this approach?

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**Post date:** [July 18, 2026, 11:03pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/citations-scotland-how-would-you/9730/8 "2026-07-18T23:03:47Z")

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I would do it slightly differently.

Repository: Comune Archive

Source: Comune Birth Certificates or what or how the records are stored at the archive.

Citation: information identifying the retreaved document.

The idea of the source is that there may/will be other records derived from the same source. Having the certificate as the source, there will be a one to one corelation between sources and ciations. Each new certificate becomes both source and citation.

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**Post date:** [August 17, 2026, 11:04pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/citations-scotland-how-would-you/9730/9 "2026-08-17T23:04:30Z")

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