# Citation question **URL:** \ **Category:** Help\ **Created:** [November 6, 2026, 2:02am UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/citation-question/10191 "2026-11-06T02:02:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![dicaveman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/gramps.discourse.group/dicaveman/32/9710_2.png) [@dicaveman](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/dicaveman)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2026, 2:02am UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/citation-question/10191/1 "2026-11-06T02:02:58Z")
Running Gramps 6.1, but have a generic question about citations. If you get a source citation from FamilySearch or Ancestry, but it’s a reference to the US Census, with an image, what is the Repository, Source and Citation? Thanks, -Kevin ---
**Author:** ![comeng](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/2acd7d/32.png) [@comeng](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/comeng)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2026, 7:42am UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/citation-question/10191/2 "2026-11-06T07:42:51Z")
My view An example from UK 1841 Census Repository National Archive Kew Source 19841 England & Wales Census Citation PRO Ref HO107, Piece 181, Book 4,Folio 10, Page 15 Ancestry & and such are not Repositories they are Publishers but there is no function like that in GRAMPS. I could use Author but I don’t probably put of laziness and the fact that the word Author has an implication of creativity about a work and Websites are not creatives. phil ---
**Author:** ![dicaveman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/gramps.discourse.group/dicaveman/32/9710_2.png) [@dicaveman](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/dicaveman)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2026, 9:09am UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/citation-question/10191/3 "2026-11-06T09:09:06Z")
So if you got all that from an online source, you would not have a reference to it anywhere? I read somewhere that the concesus was to put the URL in the Volume/Page field. Thanks for the reply, Kevin ---
**Author:** ![comeng](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/2acd7d/32.png) [@comeng](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/comeng)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2026, 9:39am UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/citation-question/10191/4 "2026-11-06T09:39:14Z")
Do not believe there was any consensus on the topic I merely explained how I do it. URL’s are vapourware and liable to change and vanish altogether so I avoid using them like the plague. I was taught the citation should point directly to the source in the most concise way possible and be comprehensible to the archivist responsible for the collection. How you acquire a copy of this information is not relevant unless of course you are breaching someone’s copyright and you intend to publish your tree. phil ---
**Author:** ![DaveSch](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/gramps.discourse.group/davesch/32/40_2.png) [@DaveSch](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/DaveSch)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2026, 10:59am UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/citation-question/10191/5 "2026-11-06T10:59:47Z")
I set the Repository to the location **I** get the information. For a U.S. census I always use Ancestry except for 1950 which I also take from FS. For the Source, I add where the site got its information in the Publisher field. ![source](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/gramps/original/2X/4/4fbb5d8ae3a00824fe5a51ceff31ee384c0fe89d.png) The Citation’s Vol/Page field holds the page information; largest to smallest fact. ![citation](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/gramps/original/2X/2/2b5c794a41a77d1ae2282f8f609af885e136cfbd.png)