# 6.1 FamilySearch beta testing Access

**URL:** <https://gramps.discourse.group/t/6-1-familysearch-beta-testing-access/9389>\
**Category:** Beta Testing\
**Tags:** fs-integration, gramps-v61\
**Created:** [April 25, 2026, 9:35pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/6-1-familysearch-beta-testing-access/9389 "2026-04-25T21:35:07Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![DaveSch](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/gramps.discourse.group/davesch/32/40_2.png) [@DaveSch](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/DaveSch)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2026, 9:35pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/6-1-familysearch-beta-testing-access/9389/1 "2026-04-25T21:35:07Z")

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Installed GrampsAIO-6.1.0-beta1-1\_win64 and imported a copy of my tree.

The FamilySearch icon in the status bar alerts… **Not logged in to FamilySearch**

From the menu Family Trees \>\> FamilySearch Sign In… **User consent declined**

I opened my default browser and signed in.

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**Author:** ![Woody](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/gramps.discourse.group/woody/32/3406_2.png) [@Woody](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/Woody)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2026, 7:38am UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/6-1-familysearch-beta-testing-access/9389/2 "2026-04-26T07:38:09Z")

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And what happens next?

I’m not clear on how to use the FS plugin.

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**Author:** ![Nick-Hall](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/gramps.discourse.group/nick-hall/32/95_2.png) [@Nick-Hall](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/Nick-Hall)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2026, 9:54am UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/6-1-familysearch-beta-testing-access/9389/3 "2026-04-26T09:54:54Z")

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Before we can issue authentication keys, the new FamilySearch Integration will need to be certified by FamilySearch. I am just waiting for our middleware to be installed before asking FamilySearch to begin their certification process. Perhaps Sam can give a progress update on this.

An alternative for testing would be to use our development key to access the FamilySearch beta server. @SourceAirbender Is this still possible?

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**Author:** ![SourceAirbender](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/gramps.discourse.group/sourceairbender/32/8555_2.png) [@SourceAirbender](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/SourceAirbender)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2026, 10:33am UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/6-1-familysearch-beta-testing-access/9389/4 "2026-04-26T10:33:21Z")

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Yup! Direct mode should still work if you run gramps with  
GRAMPS\_FS\_ENABLE\_DIRECT=1 python3 -m gramps  
or  
GRAMPS\_FS\_ENABLE\_DIRECT=1 GRAMPS\_FS\_DEBUG=1 python3 -m gramps

You just have to set the correct mode in the corresponding preferences tab

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**Author:** ![DaveSch](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/gramps.discourse.group/davesch/32/40_2.png) [@DaveSch](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/DaveSch)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2026, 11:17am UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/6-1-familysearch-beta-testing-access/9389/5 "2026-04-26T11:17:08Z")

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Still no access.

In Preferences \>\> Integrations there is a blank **Middleware base URL** and **Middleware access coee (issued secret)** and entering _GRAMPS\_FS\_ENABLE\_DIRECT=1 python3 -m gramps_ or _GRAMPS\_FS\_ENABLE\_DIRECT=1 GRAMPS\_FS\_DEBUG=1 python3 -m gramps_ into either field does not allow sign in.

Hard to test when there is no access.

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**Author:** ![aviansid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/edb3f5/32.png) [@aviansid](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/aviansid)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2026, 1:43pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/6-1-familysearch-beta-testing-access/9389/6 "2026-04-26T13:43:33Z")

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I believe SourceAirbender was giving [command line](https://gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php/Gramps_6.0_Wiki_Manual_-_Command_Line) to run, not values for the URL field.

Having GRAMPS\_FS\_ENABLE\_DIRECT=1 in the environment when Gramps runs should allow direct connection to the test server without an access code

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**Author:** ![emyoulation](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/gramps.discourse.group/emyoulation/32/67_2.png) [@emyoulation](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/emyoulation)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2026, 4:21pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/6-1-familysearch-beta-testing-access/9389/7 "2026-04-26T16:21:38Z")

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I strongly feel that there should be NO startup alerts if the FamilySearch service is not running nor attempts to touch an external service without the user enabling a preferences switch. (The should extended to any external service, including [Addon Manager](https://gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php/Gramps_Glossary#addon) or polling RSS feeds.)

Or perhaps there could be a multi-level settings in the Warnings tab of Preferences for each service? Then we could have the “Never ask again” suppression dialog. But the first time use of Gramps should not have a lot of warnings, ‘do this first’ or other barriers.

The single dialog for the Tip of the Day is enough startup ‘noise’. And we could have a default 1st-use tip with about important options in Preferences. (Like whether to Tag/Cite every record of the initial import.)

On my Android smart phone, I can restrict application Permissions with:

- Allowed all the time
- Allowed only while in use (no background activity)
- Ask Every time
- Not allowed

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**Author:** ![emyoulation](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/gramps.discourse.group/emyoulation/32/67_2.png) [@emyoulation](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/emyoulation)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2026, 4:43pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/6-1-familysearch-beta-testing-access/9389/8 "2026-04-26T16:43:28Z")

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> [@DaveSch](#):
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> Hard to test when there is no access

I believe that the 6.1 release is to make it easier for the FamilySearch folks to alpha test. Once their alpha test is passed, our community can start beta testing.

Requiring them to build-from-source would probably have given the first impression that Gramps will be too hard for their volunteers at FamilySearch Centers. So it would have made sense for their executives to push resources for our collaboration to other priorities.

This one of the reasons that we need to batter down as many onboarding barriers for newbies as possible for the 6.2 release. There will be ONE opportunity for a first impression with a HUGE audience of local **FamilySearch Centers** volunteers. If we fall on our faces, we _ **might** _ be able to make a countering splash at the 2027 RootsTech.

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**Author:** ![Nick-Hall](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/gramps.discourse.group/nick-hall/32/95_2.png) [@Nick-Hall](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/Nick-Hall)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2026, 5:15pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/6-1-familysearch-beta-testing-access/9389/9 "2026-04-26T17:15:18Z")

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> [@emyoulation](#):
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> I strongly feel that there should be NO startup alerts if the FamilySearch service is not running nor attempts to touch an external service without the user enabling a preferences switch.

To use the FamilySearch Integration, the user will first have to apply for an authentication key on our website. Then, to enable the functionality, they will have to enter the key into the “Integrations” tab in the preferences.

> [@emyoulation](#):
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> I believe that the 6.1 release is to make it easier for the FamilySearch folks to alpha test.

Yes. Gordon asked me to provide a FamilySearch compatible Windows AIO for their certification testing.

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**Author:** ![emyoulation](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/gramps.discourse.group/emyoulation/32/67_2.png) [@emyoulation](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/emyoulation)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2026, 8:55am UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/6-1-familysearch-beta-testing-access/9389/10 "2026-04-29T08:55:25Z")

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> [@Nick-Hall](#):
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> To use the FamilySearch Integration, the user will first have to apply for an authentication key on our website. Then, to enable the functionality, they will have to enter the key into the “Integrations” tab in the preferences.

Perhaps that FamilyHistory statusbar Icon could be hidden unless the Integrations for FamilySearch has been validated? And only then use the Green / B&W to indicate whether the middleware is actively connecting.

![StatusBar](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/gramps/original/2X/e/ed390f65116877f16008583b0bf5ad0ca6bb0f66.png)  
(Speaking of that statusbar icon, those 16x16 [`FS-BLA-16`](https://github.com/gramps-project/gramps/blob/master/images/hicolor/16x16/actions/FS-BLA-16.png) and [`FS-G-16`](https://github.com/gramps-project/gramps/blob/master/images/hicolor/16x16/actions/FS-G-16.png) are so tiny that it is hard to de-cypher. At first I thought it was was a screen noise from a video corruption. Perhaps a 22x22? )

And the `Hide LDS tab in person and family editors` checkbox Preferences item should probably be moved from the Data tab to the FamilySearch Integrations tab and be marked with the icon. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/gramps/original/2X/1/16381e012707519b8323b1210290932888640c9b.png) / ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/gramps/original/2X/b/b3d5ac9781959a07d95c438ae6ff5b8a6b9781d5.png)  
 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/gramps/original/2X/a/ae12f12c2cd4da0dca5f1eaeba9a9eecf5ca96e3.png)

![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/gramps/original/2X/7/7fd6ff8db73c920e57963ef0de10f19cb44eea7e.png)

 ![IntegrationsCapture](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/gramps/original/2X/f/f2634249af96ec61378a86e5aee27bce5a111dff.png)

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**Author:** ![Nick-Hall](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/gramps.discourse.group/nick-hall/32/95_2.png) [@Nick-Hall](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/Nick-Hall)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2026, 9:40am UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/6-1-familysearch-beta-testing-access/9389/11 "2026-04-29T09:40:03Z")

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> [@emyoulation](#):
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> Speaking of that statusbar icon, those 16x16 [`FS-BLA-16`](https://github.com/gramps-project/gramps/blob/master/images/hicolor/16x16/actions/FS-BLA-16.png) and [`FS-G-16`](https://github.com/gramps-project/gramps/blob/master/images/hicolor/16x16/actions/FS-G-16.png) are so tiny that it is hard to de-cypher. At first I thought it was was a screen noise from a video corruption. Perhaps a 22x22?

I can ask, but we have to adhere to the FamilySearch Solutions Program Brand Guide. Their [logos and artwork](https://www.familysearch.org/en/developers/docs/guides/integration-logos) are only available in certain sizes. The choice is 16x16 or 32x32 in this case.

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**Author:** ![Nick-Hall](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/gramps.discourse.group/nick-hall/32/95_2.png) [@Nick-Hall](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/Nick-Hall)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2026, 9:41am UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/6-1-familysearch-beta-testing-access/9389/12 "2026-04-29T09:41:48Z")

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> [@emyoulation](#):
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> And the `Hide LDS tab in person and family editors` checkbox Preferences item should probably be moved from the Data tab to the FamilySearch Integrations tab

The LDS tab is also available to users who don’t use the FamilySearch Integration.

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**Author:** ![emyoulation](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/gramps.discourse.group/emyoulation/32/67_2.png) [@emyoulation](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/emyoulation)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2026, 10:06am UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/6-1-familysearch-beta-testing-access/9389/13 "2026-04-29T10:06:51Z")

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A post was split to a new topic: [Dialogs that draw off-screen](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/dialogs-that-draw-off-screen/9410)

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**Author:** ![emyoulation](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/gramps.discourse.group/emyoulation/32/67_2.png) [@emyoulation](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/emyoulation)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2026, 10:18am UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/6-1-familysearch-beta-testing-access/9389/14 "2026-04-29T10:18:28Z")

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> [@Nick-Hall](#):
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> b is also available to users who don’t use the FamilySearch Integration

True. But it makes more sense with the FamilySearch subsection of the Integration than where it is now. When looking for LDS related features, users will naturally expect them to be located adjacently.

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**Author:** ![Nick-Hall](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/gramps.discourse.group/nick-hall/32/95_2.png) [@Nick-Hall](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/Nick-Hall)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2026, 10:29am UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/6-1-familysearch-beta-testing-access/9389/15 "2026-04-29T10:29:01Z")

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> [@emyoulation](#):
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> When looking for LDS related features, users will naturally expect them to be located adjacently.

I don’t have a strong opinion about this. I’m happy for @SourceAirbender to decide.

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**Author:** ![emyoulation](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/gramps.discourse.group/emyoulation/32/67_2.png) [@emyoulation](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/emyoulation)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2026, 10:29am UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/6-1-familysearch-beta-testing-access/9389/16 "2026-04-29T10:29:40Z")

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> [@Nick-Hall](#):
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> I can ask, but

It would be greatly appreciated by those of us with worsening eyesight.

Even the 2px delta of the larger 24x24 Navigator sidebar to the 22x22 causes undue difficulty for discriminating between Geography view modes. You won’t be able to squeeze a 24x24 into the statusbar if it is every made less fat. But a 22x22 should work. And an even Larger size for the wiki (or when people output the PDF to hardcopy) is a necessity.

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/free1/uploads/gramps/original/2X/c/c845d72c67e5b730539c475662522d3c45821d8e.png)

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**Post date:** [April 29, 2026, 11:09am UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/6-1-familysearch-beta-testing-access/9389/17 "2026-04-29T11:09:45Z")

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> [@emyoulation](#):
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> Perhaps that FamilyHistory statusbar Icon could be hidden unless the Integrations for FamilySearch has been validated?

I think there should be a check box for **FamilySearch Integration Enabled** at the top of the Integration tab with the default True. If a user does not want the integration access, they should not have the status bar icon nor the login menu item.

The hide LDS tab option should remain as is. Its function is not dependent on integration.

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**Author:** ![SourceAirbender](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/gramps.discourse.group/sourceairbender/32/8555_2.png) [@SourceAirbender](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/SourceAirbender)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2026, 9:39am UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/6-1-familysearch-beta-testing-access/9389/18 "2026-05-10T09:39:15Z")

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> I think there should be a check box for **FamilySearch Integration Enabled** at the top of the Integration tab with the default True. If a user does not want the integration access, they should not have the status bar icon nor the login menu item.

Thought this was a good idea, just finished implementing it.

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**Post date:** [May 10, 2026, 9:54am UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/6-1-familysearch-beta-testing-access/9389/19 "2026-05-10T09:54:36Z")

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I still have no way to beta test the new feature.

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**Author:** ![Nick-Hall](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/gramps.discourse.group/nick-hall/32/95_2.png) [@Nick-Hall](https://gramps.discourse.group/u/Nick-Hall)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2026, 12:51pm UTC](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/6-1-familysearch-beta-testing-access/9389/20 "2026-05-10T12:51:57Z")

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We have a meeting with Gordon tomorrow morning. Hopefully we will be able to open the FamilySearch Integration up for wider beta testing very shortly.

[Next page](https://gramps.discourse.group/t/6-1-familysearch-beta-testing-access/9389.md?page=2)
